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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
He didn't look stronger against Lex Luthor or his henchmen.
"I TROLL U!!!1"
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Jan 9th, 2014 11:13 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
"I TROLL U!!!1"
Well, feats don't determine these matchups. He fought no one superhuman and the humans he went up against outplayed and beat him down.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
Well, feats don't determine these matchups. He fought no one superhuman and the humans he went up against outplayed and beat him down.
"I TOLL U!!!!1" by ignoring context yet again, how amazingly clever and original
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Jan 9th, 2014 11:16 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
"I TOLL U!!!!1" by ignoring context yet again, how amazingly clever and original What context am I ignoring ? THis isn't a lift an island contest. The Cavill Superman had actual combat feats outside getting beat up by Kevin Spacy.
Don't you want to factor height into this too somewhere Rob.
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Jan 9th, 2014 11:19 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
What context am I ignoring ? His isn't a lift an island contest. The Cavill Superman had actual combat feats outside getting beat up by Kevin Spacy.
Don't you want to factor height into this too somewhere Rob.
He tried screaming "I am superman" with his fist down his throat, Mos refused to be called superman. He didn't care about saving smallville or metropolis, or his house being destroyed he cared about wrecking crews.
Superman is a farm boy.
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Jan 9th, 2014 11:23 PM
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He tried screaming "I am superman" with his fist down his throat, Mos refused to be called superman. He didn't care about saving smallville or metropolis, or his house being destroyed he cared about wrecking crews.
Superman is a farm boy.
I agree he didn't even bat an eye lash when his stepfather was killed.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
I agree he didn't even bat an eye lash when his stepfather was killed.
He wanted to fight, wreck crews and show who was the real man of steel.
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Jan 9th, 2014 11:54 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
What context am I ignoring ? THis isn't a lift an island contest. The Cavill Superman had actual combat feats outside getting beat up by Kevin Spacy.
Don't you want to factor height into this too somewhere Rob.
How many times are you going to ignore context and do your "I TROLL U!!!!" schtick in regards to the Luther's henchmen scene in Returns?
You're also showing your ignorance again, Routh does have combat feats fighting superhumans who are more powerful than the Kryptonians in MoS
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Routh does have combat feats fighting superhumans who are more powerful than the Kryptonians in MoS
Lies again rob, please stop lying and be real for once. Your only fooling yourself. No one else believes you bull crap but you.
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Jan 10th, 2014 12:03 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Supra
Lies again rob, please stop lying and be real for once. Your only fooling yourself. No one else believes you bull crap but you.
It's like you and Quanchi are the same now; it's equal parts sad and funny.
Anyhow, your ignorance of a movie character's background doesn't mean someone else is lying Just ask nicely; I'll explain it as I still think there's a shred of hope for you.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
It's like you and Quanchi are the same now; it's equal parts sad and funny.
Anyhow, your ignorance of a movie character's background doesn't mean someone else is lying Just ask nicely; I'll explain it as I still think there's a shred of hope for you.
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You're also showing your ignorance again, Routh does have combat feats fighting superhumans who are more powerful than the Kryptonians in MoS
So you can call me ignorant and Im just gonna be ok with it?
Ill turn the other cheek then and see if we can debate without name calling, fresh start from here on out
Show me Routh's superhuman combadre's more powerful then Zod, Faora and Namek.
Namek was tossing train's at MoS and he was tanking them.
Mos was being blasted and tanking alien weaponry.
And in hand to hand he was getting tag teamed and still he got up and face tanked them both.
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Jan 10th, 2014 12:39 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
How many times are you going to ignore context and do your "I TROLL U!!!!" schtick in regards to the Luther's henchmen scene in Returns?
You're also showing your ignorance again, Routh does have combat feats fighting superhumans who are more powerful than the Kryptonians in MoS Such as who ?
Lifting an island after a sundip is ignoring context as well, Roberto.
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Such as who ?
Lifting an island after a sundip is ignoring context as well, Roberto.
Villains in Superman 2.
Sundip? WTF are you talking about, him reaching his hand out to the sun isn't a "sundip" in the comic sense. His body was exposed to the Sun as it normally was and you're ignoring that he was still being actively poisoned from having a shard of Kryptonite in his body. Context matters.
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Ill turn the other cheek then and see if we can debate without name calling, fresh start from here on out
Show me Routh's superhuman combadre's more powerful then Zod, Faora and Namek.
Namek was tossing train's at MoS and he was tanking them.
Mos was being blasted and tanking alien weaponry.
And in hand to hand he was getting tag teamed and still he got up and face tanked them both.
Good
That would be Zod and crew from Superman 2. Who were comparable in strength and durability to Superman in that timeline. Superman Returns is essentially an alternate Superman 3 and the events of Superman and Superman 2 happened to Routh's Superman.
How does any of that even come close to the strength, speed and durability of Superman's body in picking up an island from sea level to the upper atmosphere in what was less than 2 mins?
What would you guess that island weighed? 250 million tons? 500 million tons? 1 billion tons? Superman would have had to exert enough force to counter gravity's pull on that much weight and his body would have to be durable enough to withstand that amount pressure pushing down on him. That scene is one of the highest durability feats; not just strength.
Then he survived crashing from that height, while still having kryptonite in him.
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Jan 10th, 2014 01:35 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Villains in Superman 2.
Sundip? WTF are you talking about, him reaching his hand out to the sun isn't a "sundip" in the comic sense. His body was exposed to the Sun as it normally was and you're ignoring that he was still being actively poisoned from having a shard of Kryptonite in his body. Context matters.
The villains in Superman two hurt him with manholes and were far slower than less powerful.
He struggled to stop a bus/truck or something as well.
He charged up aka amped so that wasn't capable under his normal power levels.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by quanchi112
The villains in Superman two hurt him with manholes and were far slower than less powerful.
He struggled to stop a bus/truck or something as well.
He charged up aka amped so that wasn't capable under his normal power levels.
/derp They were comparable to Superman in that timeline, deal with it.
"or something"
So somehow he got more solar radiation while still being on earth in that scene, the same as he was before. All he did was recharge himself cos he was drained, it wasn't some boost above his normal levels. Again, you're utterly ignorant on the subject matter at hand and can only do flips cos you feel the need to troll in every thread.
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Jan 10th, 2014 01:45 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
/derp They were comparable to Superman, deal with it.
"or something"
So somehow he got more solar radiation while still being on earth in that scene, the same as he was before. All he did was recharge himself cos he was being drained, it wasn't some boost above his normal levels. Again, you're utterly ignorant on the subject matter at hand and can only do flips cos you feel the need to troll in every thread.
Yes, who wasn't that expeditionary in his own movies. Derp.
He amped himself so the feat isn't what he is capable of under his normal power levels.
I actually am bringing forth evidence unlike you who debate based on fictional heights.
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Yes, who wasn't that expeditionary in his own movies. Derp.
He amped himself so the feat isn't what he is capable of under his normal power levels.
I actually am bringing forth evidence unlike you who debate based on fictional heights.
Well you're wrong again. By Superman Returns, Superman went on an expedition to find his home plant. Now sure why this matters, but you like to do flips to distract, at least try to be correct in your nonsense claims.
He did not amp himself beyond his normal levels, he never left Earth and was no closer to the Sun. He temporarily restored some of his powers that had been drained and he was still actively being drained from the shard still in him . Context you love to ignore. Deal with it and stop lying.
No, you're lying as usual.
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Jan 10th, 2014 01:53 AM
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MoS didn't give a flying pony about no one, he showed up and wanted to fight, Superman was to busy trying to save the world, MoS wanted to brawl.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Good
That would be Zod and crew from Superman 2. Who were comparable in strength and durability to Superman in that timeline. Superman Returns is essentially an alternate Superman 3 and the events of Superman and Superman 2 happened to Routh's Superman.
How does any of that even come close to the strength, speed and durability of Superman's body in picking up an island from sea level to the upper atmosphere in what was less than 2 mins?
What would you guess that island weighed? 250 million tons? 500 million tons? 1 billion tons? Superman would have had to exert enough force to counter gravity's pull on that much weight and his body would have to be durable enough to withstand that amount pressure pushing down on him. That scene is one of the highest durability feats; not just strength.
Then he survived crashing from that height, while still having kryptonite in him.
Your basing his anti-gravity force generated from flying and relating it to muscle strength in a punch. Which is impossible to do.
He has no punching power feats.
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Jan 10th, 2014 01:53 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Robtard
Well you're wrong again. By Superman Returns, Superman went on an expedition to find his home plant. Now sure why this matters, but you like to do flips to distract, at least try to be correct in your nonsense claims.
He did not amp himself beyond his normal levels, he never left Earth and was no closer to the Sun. He temporarily restored some of his powers that had been drained and he was still actively being drained from the shard still in him . Context you love to ignore. Deal with it and stop lying.
No, you're lying as usual.
he amped himself so the feat cannot be used for his normal power levels. End of story. Lifting an island doesn't prove anything since by your own admission a manhole can hurt him as well as he struggles with trucks.
I haven't a lied about anything.
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