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Can the Master Sword cut through Sauron's ring ?
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The executioner sword would also break the One Ring.


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The executioner sword would also break the One Ring.
Based on ?


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Hurting Ganondorf.


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That magic can also work again on Link. His sword didn't dispel Dorfs magic until it was lodged into him.


Link can dispel it at will. It dispel's Ganondorf's protection every time it hits him, and Ganondorf's skin is tougher than castle walls.

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Executioner sword hurt him which he never recovered from to the day a 17 year old crushed him in combat.


Why do you ignore context, Master?

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Ms breaks.

Sauron lives until he meets Voldemort that is.


Voldemort is killed as a side effect or the Master Sword destroying the Ring. I'm sorry it had to come to this.


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Hurting Ganondorf.
What physical swords did Dorf resist ?


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Link can dispel it at will. It dispel's Ganondorf's protection every time it hits him, and Ganondorf's skin is tougher than castle walls.



Why do you ignore context, Master?



Voldemort is killed as a side effect or the Master Sword destroying the Ring. I'm sorry it had to come to this.
It has to hit him. It has to hit the magical user. No, it isn't since both swords cut right through him, easily.

I don't.

Ms can be parried by non magical swords or anything in the game. Weak sauce.

Quit ignoring context, slave.


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Voldemort goes against Sauron and gets swatted aside by the Ring's magic, and Sauron's gigantic sword because Voldemort is a pansy who only ever uses a wand, wears a single black cloak, and was killed by a teenager. Sauron then beats Voldemort down with his shadows like he did Gandalf in The Desolation of Smaug.

Now, as for the Ring and the Master Sword. The Ring was created by a necromancer of such great power that none of the wizards of the council of 5 (Gandalf, Saruman, Radeghast, etc.), and not even Galadriel could stand up against for more than a few seconds. His magic likely is far beyond that of Ganondorf, so while the Master Sword may dispel Dorf's magic, the Ring's magic is still far too strong to be threatened by the Master Sword.

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The ring contains most of the power of one of the strongest Maia, and there was really only one known way to destroy it.

The Master sword is certainly powerful, but it hardly shattered opposing swords/shields/etc.. It's good at breaking curses and banishing evil, but it's hardly some artifact designed to smash artifacts, so I don't see there much chance of it destroying the ring.


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Maia don't exist in the movies Q99.


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Maia don't exist in the movies Q99.


Even not using the word, it has most of the power of a tremendously powerful being who Gandalf, the guy who killed the Balrog, didn't feel he could scratch with his magic sword or any of the resources of the elves, dwarves, or other ally and that the easiest option was literally in the enemy's stronghold.

The ring has a very hard to reach destruction threshhold, and a sharp enchanted sword, not something designed for destroying enchanted things to begin with, doesn't seem like it'd come close.


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Maia don't exist in the movies Q99.


They aren't actually mentioned by the name, Maia, but they do still exist in the movies.

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Even not using the word, it has most of the power of a tremendously powerful being who Gandalf, the guy who killed the Balrog, didn't feel he could scratch with his magic sword or any of the resources of the elves, dwarves, or other ally and that the easiest option was literally in the enemy's stronghold.

The ring has a very hard to reach destruction threshhold, and a sharp enchanted sword, not something designed for destroying enchanted things to begin with, doesn't seem like it'd come close.
The Master Sword holds more power inside than the combined host of the Valar, considering it can counter the power of the Triforce. It's magic can also propel huge islands into the air.


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When was it that the MS shattered some massive barrier?


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Voldemort goes against Sauron and gets swatted aside by the Ring's magic, and Sauron's gigantic sword because Voldemort is a pansy who only ever uses a wand, wears a single black cloak, and was killed by a teenager. Sauron then beats Voldemort down with his shadows like he did Gandalf in The Desolation of Smaug.

Now, as for the Ring and the Master Sword. The Ring was created by a necromancer of such great power that none of the wizards of the council of 5 (Gandalf, Saruman, Radeghast, etc.), and not even Galadriel could stand up against for more than a few seconds. His magic likely is far beyond that of Ganondorf, so while the Master Sword may dispel Dorf's magic, the Ring's magic is still far too strong to be threatened by the Master Sword.
Just like Isildur. Oh wait he killed Sauron and took his ring with a half destroyed sword. Voldemort decimates him but this isn't about the true dark lord.

I agree the featless ms fails against it.


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The Master Sword holds more power inside than the combined host of the Valar, considering it can counter the power of the Triforce. It's magic can also propel huge islands into the air.
That just means it is better suited against the Triforce. The point is when the ms clashed with the executioners sword nothing broke. It doesn't break swords let alone magical artifacts. The ms can cut through Dorfs skin but not break the executioners sword.


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When was it that the MS shattered some massive barrier?


It has done so in A Link to the Past, Wind Waker, and A Link Between Worlds. In all three cases it's a barrier that covers Hyrule Castle.

In Twilight Princess, it destroyed the Twilight Blade that Zant used to bring Stallord to life. Not to mention countering the Triforce of Power and dispelling Link's curse. Also, I guess you could count it killing the creatures that were corrupted by the Mirror of Twilight.

In Skyward Sword, it cut through the swords that Ghirahim summoned, as well as Ghirahim himself (and he's a living sword.)

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It has to hit him. It has to hit the magical user. No, it isn't since both swords cut right through him, easily.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TShJJKsN6TU

Please tell me the exact time that the Master Sword has to touch Link in order to dispel the curse on him. Oh, and when did it touch Midna while it sent her flying?

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Ms can be parried by non magical swords or anything in the game. Weak sauce.


Gameplay mechanic. The Master Sword has canonically destroyed at least one other sword in Twilight Princess, and several more in Skyward Sword.

If you want to use gameplay, though, I can bring up the fact that the Master Sword cuts Darknut armor to pieces, and that no enemy in the game can block the Mortal Draw. I hope you remember, "There is no defense for this. The Mortal Draw deals death."

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Quit ignoring context, slave.


I'm sorry, Master, but I don't understand. I don't ignore context, so I can't comply with this order.


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It has done so in A Link to the Past, Wind Waker, and A Link Between Worlds. In all three cases it's a barrier that covers Hyrule Castle.

In Twilight Princess, it destroyed the Twilight Blade that Zant used to bring Stallord to life. Not to mention countering the Triforce of Power and dispelling Link's curse. Also, I guess you could count it killing the creatures that were corrupted by the Mirror of Twilight.

In Skyward Sword, it cut through the swords that Ghirahim summoned, as well as Ghirahim himself (and he's a living sword.)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TShJJKsN6TU

Please tell me the exact time that the Master Sword has to touch Link in order to dispel the curse on him. Oh, and when did it touch Midna while it sent her flying?



Gameplay mechanic. The Master Sword has canonically destroyed at least one other sword in Twilight Princess, and several more in Skyward Sword.

If you want to use gameplay, though, I can bring up the fact that the Master Sword cuts Darknut armor to pieces, and that no enemy in the game can block the Mortal Draw. I hope you remember, "There is no defense for this. The Mortal Draw deals death."



I'm sorry, Master, but I don't understand. I don't ignore context, so I can't comply with this order.
The curse still works and it doesn't stop Dorfs magic unless it cuts into his weak flesh.

The mortal dare also leaves him open to death. It's the attack not the sword itself. laughing out loud


Sword doesn't break executioners sword though it does cut right through Dorf re confirming the sword is more durable than Dorfs soft skin.

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The curse still works and it doesn't stop Dorfs magic unless it cuts into his weak flesh.


The Sword Sword has dispelled and reflected spells without touching the caster. Try again.

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The mortal dare also leaves him open to death. It's the attack not the sword itself. laughing out loud


Is the Ring going to fight back? Thanks for conceding that the Master Sword can't be blocked in game, though.

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Sword doesn't break executioners sword though it does cut right through Dorf re confirming the sword is more durable than Dorfs soft skin.

laughing out loud


You specified non-magical, are you moving the goal posts now?


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The Sword Sword has dispelled and reflected spells without touching the caster. Try again.



Is the Ring going to fight back? Thanks for conceding that the Master Sword can't be blocked in game, though.



You specified non-magical, are you moving the goal posts now?
It can reflect a bolt but can't disable someone's magic unless it pierces them.


It can and has canonically in the executioners scene. The move is what is exceptional not the sword. That's painfully obvious.


Both are physical swords. Proves both swords are greater than Dorfs soft skin.

Ms can't break the ring. Only the fanboys would claim otherwise. This isn't the basilisk fang, sport.


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Just like Isildur. Oh wait he killed Sauron and took his ring with a half destroyed sword. Voldemort decimates him but this isn't about the true dark lord.

I agree the featless ms fails against it.


Isildur only cut the ring from Sauron's finger. It temporarily destroyed Sauron, but the ring kept most of Sauron alive, and corrupted Isildur even after its master was destroyed.

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