Re: Battlezone: Khan Noonien Singh vs. Darth Vader
I knew you would TROLL from your OP.
What's with the "Live Action Only" you coward. Lucasfilm made a clear announcement that TCW is a legitimate part of Movie canon. Hence ignoring it's feats is purposefully ignoring Vader/Skywalker's abilities.
I knew you would chicken out of proper Battlezone. You've put Your TROLL borders around everything that would prove Skywalker's superiority. First the feats of LESS POWERFUL Jedi than Skywalker, and now purposefully banning legitimate Star Wars Canon, which even includes a damn movie.
Who said you could make the rules? That's a really fair contest isn't it? It's like me making rules where you can't use Khan's feat against the Klingons. Fact is you have to make your own rules and put your restrictions on this because you know very well that Skywalker is superior. You are a complete coward and should go eat your own crap.
Yeah, exactly, who was supposed to be judging here, and who was making the rules and the stipulations?
Seems like the answer to all of the above was Quan himself. And one comment from another person and he backed out of his own thread which he himself was making the damn rules for.
"This includes the six Star Wars episodes, and the many hours of content he developed and produced in The Clone Wars. These stories are the immovable objects of Star Wars history, the characters and events to which all other tales must align."
Re: Re: Battlezone: Khan Noonien Singh vs. Darth Vader
I am going to expose you for the coward you are. This isn't the first time you heard me distinctly say this is live action movie only. You agreed. Now the day of you try to back down.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
I am saying all feats as a boy and throughout the 6 films count for Vader.
Do you feel Vader wins without toon movie ?
No, they don't as they are different characters. Only what you can prove Vader can do and what's within character.
This is Darth Power's response later down confirming he accepts. Now he is pretending he forgot posting this and attempting to back out at the last second proving himself to be both an idiot, a liar, and a coward after already agreeing to the stipulations.
Movie Vader wins via Force choke alone.
Well the toon version is the same character but whatever.
Well that's silly since we know they are inferior Jedi. Vader in fact beats one of them senseless.
Now if you want to back out of something I clearly told you about in the proper thread despite you agreeing say so now and make your shame official.
Mods also don't determine battlezone stipulations as it isn't a normal thread. You already agreed on the forum for all to see.
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Urm Excuse me TROLL,
I've not once there agreed that feats of INFERIOR JEDI don't count. In fact in my last post there I said: "Well that's stupid because Vader completely beats the crap out of one of those guys who has the speed feat."
I never even agreed that TCW doesn't count. I just said "whatever."
But Newjack is right there, you are just making your own restrictions on Skywalker because you know Vader is far superior to Khan, so you need to discount 90% of his showings as well as all the showings of Equal and Inferior Jedi.
You've been shown for the coward that you are.
Let's do this. Let me kick your ass, but I don't want any silly restrictions in the OP. If we are using LIVE ACTION MOVIES ONLY then I want the feats of ALL CLEARLY INFERIOR JEDI INCLUDED.
Whilst if we are using Skywalker only feats the I want ALL OF SKYWALKER'S CANONICAL FEATS INCLUDING TCW.
Concede to at least one of these stips, or we wait for a ruling from A MOD.
"This includes the six Star Wars episodes, and the many hours of content he developed and produced in The Clone Wars. These stories are the immovable objects of Star Wars history, the characters and events to which all other tales must align."
Last edited by Darth Thor on Jun 4th, 2014 at 11:42 AM
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You can use feats for other characters from the live action films. It's just a tougher sell since Vader doesn't use them. All live action feats are fair game. We argue in character as I have always debated. I never said otherwise.
Saying whatever acknowledged my stance you pretended to be caught off guard by. You said Vader still wins thus exposing yourself to be gutless and someone trying to back out of the stipulations I clearly posted months back.
Mods can't enforce their opinions regarding battlezone stipulations only enforcing normal threads.
Live action only as I said this then and am not changing my mind now. You have always been made aware. If you want to back down do so. The fact you acted shocked when I posted a link showing me telling you the same thing then is hilarious.
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Oh no wonder I said that! I was thinking it was May last month, but it was May over a year ago!
Lol that was before Lucasfilm specifically stated TCW is a part of movie canon. So any stips I agreed to then no longer apply, as TCW is official movie canon now.
I always knew it was, even at that time, but you keep pulling that "T-Canon" crap to me.
But anything we said at that time no longer applies.
Also we have to power scale. If Spock can punch through stone, then obviously Khan can as well, since Khan is physically superior to Spock in every way. Same principle applies when Padawan Luke and Padawan Kenobi can move at super speed then obviously ROTS Anakin can as well.
But Ok, that's fine, as long as I can use all Live ACction feats (and I won't even use Yoda, Sidious or Mace as I will only use the feats of Jedi/Sith who are clearly either Inferior to Skywalker or relatively on par- ROTS Kenobi). BUt as long as you know and accept that you are purposefully handicapping me from using Canon feats as Ackowledged by Lucasfilm.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Jun 4th, 2014 at 11:54 AM
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It doesn't matter as we decide the stipulations. Live action only. You said Vader wins still so you're cowardly if you back out of it now.
People can debate based on whatever stipulations they want to in a battlezone thread. I said all live action feats are fair game and I never argued otherwise. I never said Vader was less powerful than Obi just that feats not done by the character are out of character so a tougher sell.
If you won't budge on the stipulations I already made clear way back when then you back out. I changed nothing whereas you are backing down.
Man up. Otherwise you backed out of stipulations you agreed on. You said you still think Vader wins so go about proving it. If not then I will find someone else with the stones to accept the battlezone I always intended to go through with and live in shame.
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Yeah the stipulations are for both of us to agree on, not just for you.
And read what I said A FRIGGING YEAR AGO. I never agreed to your specific stips.
As long as Kenobi's and Luke's feats count (which they should) then I don't even need to use Machine Vader as he is a completely different animal tbh.
You also have to admit that your HANDICAPPING me to Live action feats only because you know you'll lose if we use the all CANON feats, which means you accept Khan is actually inferior to Skywalker.
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You agreed and knew full well. Apparently 6 films isn't enough since you really don't believe in what you're saying.
I told you those were the stips and you knew it. My next response was that you agreed. Did you say otherwise ?
The toons are handled and portrayed in an entirely different light than their live action counterparts. I think using toons is silly anyways since we have plenty of live action examples and can compare both equally in that regard with you still having plenty of films on a character who showed up for only one movie yet.
My stipulations won't change. You knew them then and are trying some last minute cowardly shit. If you won't accept I will find someone who will. I always was honest and upfront as to what this entailed. Your last minute game changing antics only further prove you don't have faith in yourself or your case.
Once you back down I will have the battlezone thread re issued and take someone on with nuts. Someone who actually follows through with the stipulations I have been clear about months ago.
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I didn't know. That was a friggin year ago you freak.
LOL Dude you can give me 1 movie- TCW Movie. Add in a couple of episodes as well and that'd be overkill. But that's the only one I need for Anakin. For Obi-Wan the only one I'd need would be TPM. ROTS and some Clone War showings on top would be overkill for Kenobi.
A YEAR AGO! I didn't know it, I was was getting together evidence from TCW series.
In fact when Lucasfilm issued this statement I specifically demanded that you concede on the matter.
LOL YOUR Response was that I AGREED.
Since we're talking specifically about Anakin Skywalker (and since you don't accept powerscaling) then his best feats are in TCW movie and some of the episodes.
TCW series is actually made very much in line with the movies. They don't suddenly become super strong speedsters or anything- I think you might be thinking of the clone war mini cartoon.
But TCW is pure canon, as confirmed by Lucasfilm.
Compromise. 2 Battlezones. One with your stips, and one with mine.
I mean what kind of s*** is that Battlezoning with YOUR STIPS?! Nah I'm not going to allow you to TROLL like that in a Battlezone without us both agreeing on Stips.
If anything the rules of the Battlezone should be down to a Moderator.
But like I said if you want to open 2, one with my Stips, and one with yours running simultaneously then I'm open to that too.
So you going to agree to a fair contest, or you going to chicken out when your not allowed to TROLL?
Up to you, but don't say I didn't give you a fair chance later. And we will both know that your the one who backed out of a fair contest.
He's going to chicken out, the whole point of his retarded stips and not naming any judges is so that he can blame you for the BZ not going forward when you complain.
Typical quantroll tactics.
__________________ posted by Badabing
I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
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If we agreed to the stips a year ago that means I shouldn't have had to worry about you doing this last second tip toeing away from this. You admitted you agreed say lets do this then try to back out when you have known about the stips for a year.
This is about Vader. You already begged me to let you change the battlezone to Kenobi as well. You're a last second flip flopper. You're a coward.
I don't care I already specifically said live action only. You want to use feats of everyone from the Star Wars universe as well as the animated movie along with the series versus one Trek movie. You believe Vader still wins but won't accept the battlezone despite already knowing this a year ago. You've had a year to prepare. Now days before you try to represent Kenobi and beg for animation as well.
You never disagreed with it and still maintained Vader wins like whatever I'll still win. Now you pretend you never knew and when I called you out try to act like you can't do it now. You're making a spectacle of yourself, coward.
I already told you love action only as there are vast differences in how these characters move from the animation aspect. Canonicity isn't the point here. You want all Star Wars live actions, animated series, and the animated movie against one live action movie. You're a coward.
I posted with the stips I was interested in. I have a life and am doing one. You accepted a year ago. You claimed Vader wins now are backing down. I'll never let you live this down if you refuse to accept and find someone else who will.
The battlezone rules are already loosely put up. You do to get to alter them because you had a last second panic attack. I already let you know 1 year ago the stipulations and despite Vader having more screen time, feats, and your opinion that he still wins within those stipulations you have chosen to back out at the last possible second.
The parameters and stipulations are set and the judges decide based on the arguments presented who wins the debate. I told you the stips of this thing and it still favors more Vader feats but now you're backing down when you've had 1 year to prepare. I have never seen a more cowardly act in my time on here and I know Robtard so that is saying something.
Urm... The current rules always allowed TCW movie before and after Lucasfilm's statement. The Mods made that clear over a year ago, that's why you panicked and put in those stips
Sorry, but you don't get to make the stips. Your stips were basically to ignore all high end SW feats by Skywalker's INFERIORS plus all Skywalkwer's best feats from TCW.
Basically you were designing it to basically lowball Skywalker as much as possible and change his actual abilities
No there isn't. That's just you using any excuse to run away like a coward.
If Khan in that ONE MOVIE is truly superior to everything we know about Skywalker then it shouldn't matter how many movies I use now should it?
Besides I can negotiate how many movies we use. What I can't do is just follow your biased and Stips in an attempt to TROLL me better.
Anyway as soon as shit got serious you backed out, as I knew you would you Coward, by putting it in the OP that all of Skywalker's best feats can't be used. Pathetic.
Last edited by Darth Thor on Jun 4th, 2014 at 05:02 PM
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