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NemeBro
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Not anywhere close to what Khan's is. At that, I don't remember it being anything remarkable.

Also, to the both of you: just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion does not mean that are automatically trolling. What you two are doing comes off as petty and childish just because I don't agree with you. There are more adult ways to have a conversation than just reverting to "u trol me!" I expect that kind of behavior from "Silent Master" because he's a troll. But not you, King.

Come back to the conversation less pissed. Maybe we can have some genuine dialogue.

Shut up troll.

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I'm not pissed about anything. I just don't understand how you can watch both Cap movies and Avengers and then watch Star Trek and believe Khan outclasses Cap. The feats directly show the opposite.

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BTVS and especially Angel rank amongst my favorite ever shows. Considering these shows are what cause Marvel to allows him to direct the Avengers, they clearly have some good quality to them.

Angel far outdid Buffy though. F*cking awesome show to grow up with for me. Great cast, and great villains. The Beast was a ****ing terrifying/amazing villain/monster, as was Angelus.

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Originally posted by dadudemon
Not anywhere close to what Khan's is. At that, I don't remember it being anything remarkable.

Also, to the both of you: just because someone doesn't agree with your opinion does not mean that are automatically trolling. What you two are doing comes off as petty and childish just because I don't agree with you. There are more adult ways to have a conversation than just reverting to "u trol me!" I expect that kind of behavior from "Silent Master" because he's a troll. But not you, King.

Come back to the conversation less pissed. Maybe we can have some genuine dialogue.

This isn't a matter of disagreement; Cap has objectively better strength, skill, agility, durability and fighting speed feats. You ignoring the facts is why your actions are being labeled as trolling.

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Angel far outdid Buffy though. F*cking awesome show to grow up with for me. Great cast, and great villains. The Beast was a ****ing terrifying/amazing villain/monster, as was Angelus.

Couldn't agree more.

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This isn't a matter of disagreement; Cap has objectively better strength, skill, agility, durability and fighting speed feats. You ignoring the facts is why your actions are being labeled as trolling.

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This isn't a matter of disagreement; Cap has objectively better strength, skill, agility, durability and fighting speed feats. You ignoring the facts is why your actions are being labeled as trolling.

I don't think he's seen winter soldier

Jun 28th, 2014 09:59 PM

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This isn't a matter of disagreement; Cap has objectively better strength, skill, agility, durability and fighting speed feats.

No he most certainly does not have objectively better strength, skill, agility, durability, and fighting speed feats. I have yet to numbers from your camp that support your position: you know, something actually objective.

Convince me with legitimate numbers and not more internet chest-beating and posturing. From my perspective, they look roughly the same in strength and durability with Khan having more speed and fighting skill.

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You ignoring the facts is why your actions are being labeled as trolling.

I can say the same of you. Saying stuff like that is only intended to inflame or incite: sounds like trolling, doesn't it? It's not very fun to be guilty of the very thing you are seemingly deriding, is it?

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Then by all means post Khan's best physical feats and then we'll post feats for Cap that totally blow them out of the water.

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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Then by all means post Khan's best physical feats and then we'll post feats for Cap that totally blow them out of the water.

"-Hand-to-hand expert, easily dispatches dozens of warrior-trained Klingons without problem

-Weapons master, brought down small starships using an arm cannon, deadly accurate and unhittable in gunfights

-Enhanced strength, can send men flying with strikes, crush their skulls using his hands, toss them over his head

-Survived starship crash, then jumped from 30 meters to the ground

-Can withstand several shots by phasers on stun (which would drop normal men)

-Warlord during the Eugenics Wars, conquered quarter of Earth

-Super-genius, tactically and otherwise
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Then by all means post Khan's best physical feats and then we'll post feats for Cap that totally blow them out of the water.

So you have nothing but just internet posturing and chest-beating, huh?

Well, I remain unconvinced of your position and I'm still solid in mine.

If you're interested in taking this conversation beyond trolling, post your calculations, with screenshots. I will then analyze your submission for accuracy and confirm or deny the correctness.

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"-Hand-to-hand expert, easily dispatches dozens of warrior-trained Klingons without problem

-Weapons master, brought down small starships using an arm cannon, deadly accurate and unhittable in gunfights

-Enhanced strength, can send men flying with strikes, crush their skulls using his hands, toss them over his head

-Survived starship crash, then jumped from 30 meters to the ground

-Can withstand several shots by phasers on stun (which would drop normal men)

-Warlord during the Eugenics Wars, conquered quarter of Earth

-Super-genius, tactically and otherwise
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I appreciate you "quoting" these things. Thanks for not trolling. It seems near impossible to have a normal conversation in the MvF these days.

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I appreciate you "quoting" these things. Thanks for not trolling. It seems near impossible to have a normal conversation in the MvF these days.

I would still give Cap the win, but Khan's no slouch.

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SM just got his shit pushed in and lost the debate. laughing out loud

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Originally posted by dadudemon
I appreciate you "quoting" these things. Thanks for not trolling. It seems near impossible to have a normal conversation in the MvF these days.

Quan's antics tend to incite strong emotions in some posters (I don't know how, his trolling is some of the least subtle I've seen, he's not like you or I) so they tend to rail against any character he champions in an nonobjective way. Like how Van Zan went from being a fairly big, strong, and fearless leader fighting against monstrous dragons to an idiot with girly punches who commits suicide at the slightest provocation.

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I would still give Cap the win, but Khan's no slouch.

That is a fair assessment and I can respect your position.

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"-Hand-to-hand expert, easily dispatches dozens of warrior-trained Klingons without problem

Featless Klingons, Cap took down that many spec ops soldiers in a confined space with one arm and while being hit with tazer sticks.

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-Weapons master, brought down small starships using an arm cannon, deadly accurate and unhittable in gunfights

That's a laugh, Khan missed several times and the only reason he was "unhittable" is because their aim sucked, I mean he literally just stood there.

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-Enhanced strength, can send men flying with strikes, crush their skulls using his hands, toss them over his head

Cap also sends people flying with hits, he also punched through reinforced submarine glass while underwater, lifted a motorcycle with 3 people on it.

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-Survived starship crash,

So did the entire crew of Star Trek TNG, including normal human women and children.

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then jumped from 30 meters to the ground

Cap actually survived further jumps, hell he jumped out of an airplane without a chute.

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-Can withstand several shots by phasers on stun (which would drop normal men)

Cap took hits from Red Skull, Loki, Winter Soldier and took a blast that was blowing up cars.

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-Warlord during the Eugenics Wars, conquered quarter of Earth

How is that going to help him in a HTH fight?

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-Super-genius, tactically and otherwise
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Didn't help him in the Spock fight, in fact he basically acted like a common brawler.

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[B]Featless Klingons, Cap took down that many spec ops soldiers in a confined space with one arm and while being hit with tazer sticks.

Featless Spec Ops Soldiers

Jun 28th, 2014 11:27 PM

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That doesn't take away from the fact that they were highly trained Hydra agents who had Cap surrounded like 11-13 to 1, a few had high powered cattle prods, Cap had 1 arm locked above his head, and he beat all of them in about a minute.

And a casual hit sent one of them flying into the ceiling.

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That doesn't take away from the fact that they were highly trained Hydra agents who had Cap surrounded like 11-13 to 1, a few had high powered cattle prods, Cap had 1 arm locked above his head, and he beat all of them in about a minute.

And a casual hit sent one of them flying into the ceiling.

So the same argument could be given for the Klingons. What feats do those soldiers have over the Klingons other then dying like flies.

Jun 28th, 2014 11:31 PM

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