This thread is like a WHAT IF to those who understood and did not come crying about superman..Get it? WHAT IF superman could do ALL those things that have NEVER been proven he did or could do... IF he could do all those things, could he be stopped?? Very simple to answer. Yes or no.
Over 50 earth weights < lifting half of infinity in Final Crisis, check.
Fanmade Trans level or higher = being able to beat Darkseid and fighting other beings, koing Herald as a side effect of going all out during Final crisis, OWAW Superman fighting multiple herald to translevel+ probes at the same time, check.
Dynamic strength, proven countless times in comics, no need to do so, check.
All questions answered. Just because you don't like Superman having the feats to suppoert such claims doesn't mean they are not valid. Superman just doesn't operate on those levels most of the time.
See, i like helping trolls like you, even in their own bite threads. I am such a good human being .
Even if this thread were created to poke fun at certain posters, which it wasnt, wouldnt those posters have earned a good natured poke by their actions?
Jack booting through multiple threads putting down other posters' favorite characters using well placed asterisks to curse people out, behaving like bullies, these things dont exactly warrant NOT getting made fun of.
Of course non holding back superman has dynamic strength, but it has its limits. It's not ridiculous like abstract level some tend to be convinced of just because a couple poor writing examples (or the writer wanking supes) .
But the examples are there and hence it's legit. It's not about wanking, it is just about one thing that few people get. We are debating about comics here, for fun, this is not serious it never was, it's meaningless as it can get, the only thing we should get of it is fun and a good time. There are no tiers, Superman is not as powerful as Thor or whatever, our opinion about this subject is what doesn't realy matter, what matters are the stories, and they have more weight and value. And those we find shitty and wanking are often the best and most entertaining, like Final Crisis where Superman operated on what fans would gauge as Skyfather levels.
I love our Forum, it makes me laugh and smile, and that is good, if I can get some cool scans and some hints to other stories or insights about other characters from posters cool but the rest is fun, fan against fan .
So your saying that you like Superman being some invincible god ?
Got it.
To me this makes Superman waaaay less interesting as a character In comics and film.
And it hurts supes in the process because it makes for a boring character.
Thats why there has been so many superman reboots. They try to make the character more reasonable . It works for a while till a writer comes in and fuqs everything up again by wanking supes to ridiculous levels, then another reboot has to be done after shit gets out of hand. rinse repeat.
And dont give me the "thats how superman is portrayed just accept it" nonsense, because if that were true then he wouldn't need to be rebooted at all.
But whatever floats your boat.
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No, I like good stories. This thread was about huis powerlevels but there is no fix powerlevel, there are just a bunch of stories. Some of my favs are not as high, I just gave examples where he was on the levels the thread starter implied.
Got it now?
To me a good story is not about powerlevels, he can operate on Skyfather levels if he needs to like in FC and it's fine and dandy, he can operate on levels far lower than this like he did in the Byrne Era, which is after Pre-Crisis days my most favorite comic time (I read PC comics during my childhood and Byrne comics when I was a teen).
The reboots are not because of Superman but because of contradictions in stories and characters, not only Superman. DCnU Superman is for example already after a short while on ridiculous levels. Benchpressing earth for 5 days without sunlight. That's above anything Hulk has ever done for example.
But he is portrayed as a nexus being, an nexus point and necessity to the Multiverse. The greatest story ever told.
Not my words btw.
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Superman #173, Imperiex refers to him as an Cosmic anomaly. SunGod is a cosmic anomaly too, might be a reference that he is Marvels Superman.
Superman, The Man of Steel #117 Brainiac, with Imperiex power, calls him directly a Cosmic Being, page 18, "You know that, Superman. You are a cosmic being."
Superman, the man of Steel #118, page 10, linear man call mit a Cosmic powered being, and accuse him of acting in a most mortal way. They also referr to him as a nexus being from a nexus planet, page 11.
On page 18 Superman tells what keep him from joining the exalted ranks of the Quintessence of power cosmic.
Alexander Luthor himself said that, in IC, everything comes from Superman, he is indeed the nexus point of the DC Universe."
I like how Superman is "boring" due to wanking, but the same guys turn and clap at "how powerful Thor, Hulk, Sentry are". You don't like superman, good for you. Don't pretend that Superman's power level has to do anything with it. In fact if Superman gets a power down, his sales go down and what of these self-proclaimed internet warriors who claim superman is boring because of powerlevels?
"LOLZ, THOR STOMPZ SUPERMAN".
Fun fact: Superman was number one in sales for decades in silver age despite being too powerful. Since Denny O'Neil depowered him in 70's he went down in sales. So, no Superman is never "too powerful". Its his schtick after all.
Do you have any idea how totally foolish this is? Hulk has far better feats than benching the earths weight. Superman is a high herald yet you elevate him to trans level??? This is the reason for this thread, Superman is in the same class as BA, CM and below the likes of Odin, kurse and a lot others. Thank you for proving my point.
What's the point debating those characters then? of course EVERY character would do pretty much anything the writter wants for the story. That's the reason why debating averages is the only reasonable way to go.
So no, Superman doesn't have "infinite" strenght only because he once lifted a magical book with "infinite pages" (?). I'm sorry but feats like that ARE impossible to debate.
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of course EVERY character would do pretty much anything the writter wants for the story. That's the reason why debating averages is the only reasonable way to go.
