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Re: Re: T-800 vs Robocop

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Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Oh wait, Robo gets a pistol and T-800 gets full weapons. Cause this is fair. laughing


Robo gets pretty standard gear. I did the same for T-800. If it was unfair Robo gets his Jet Pack he used only at a end of a terrible movie, and that crazy gun arm that only appeard at the end of a single movie. Then T-800 should get dual 40 Watt Plasma Rifles and a HK to ride on lol.

Just saying this is pretty standard gear for Robo Cop in the movies as this is for T-800 as per T-2.

Not that it matters as many people believe the weapons T-800 have cannot harm Robocop anyway smile


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Re: Re: Re: T-800 vs Robocop

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Robo gets pretty standard gear. I did the same for T-800. If it was unfair Robo gets his Jet Pack he used only at a end of a terrible movie, and that crazy gun arm that only appeard at the end of a single movie. Then T-800 should get dual 40 Watt Plasma Rifles and a HK to ride on lol.

Just saying this is pretty standard gear for Robo Cop in the movies as this is for T-800 as per T-2.

Not that it matters as many people believe the weapons T-800 have cannot harm Robocop anyway smile


A grenade launcher totally fcked him up in RC 3. He was basically dead. Thats his one weakness a grenade to the chest.

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Originally posted by CadenceV2
Here is the scan if you like to re see it.

http://s9.photobucket.com/user/King...?sort=9&o=9

Its worthy to note T-800 already tanked a Semi Truck slamming into him, as well the propane explosion after that. its more than possible for there to been some wear and tear after that. However being blown apart at the joints, and still moving for the kill is impressive as well.
That explosion is considerably larger than the previous bombs Kyle was tossing out the car. Thanks for posting.

No one is doubting that the T-800 are tough killing machines. They're just not taking down Robocop in a 1v1.


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Robo gets pretty standard gear. I did the same for T-800. If it was unfair Robo gets his Jet Pack he used only at a end of a terrible movie, and that crazy gun arm that only appeard at the end of a single movie. Then T-800 should get dual 40 Watt Plasma Rifles and a HK to ride on lol.

Just saying this is pretty standard gear for Robo Cop in the movies as this is for T-800 as per T-2.

Not that it matters as many people believe the weapons T-800 have cannot harm Robocop anyway smile


But Terminator only used that minimum and grenade launcher on one occasion. It wasn't standard gear, he didn't carry that on him the entire movie.


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That explosion is considerably larger than the previous bombs Kyle was tossing out the car. Thanks for posting.


It seem larger than the rest. No problem.


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Calm down.


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Terminator 4 Movie.

http://s9.photobucket.com/user/King...sort=9&o=11

As seen T-800 tanks 2 separate 203MM attacks with no ill effects.


Except that's nowhere near 203mm. Do you know how caliburs like these work?

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Also if that not impressive enough, T-800 tanks a hit from over 40 tons of Semi and propane moving over 50 MPH down a free way with only some damage to the leg joint.

http://s9.photobucket.com/user/King...sort=9&o=12


Still far from comparable to the skyscraper fall

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T-800 is working fine after having a ton of molten metal poured on it, and then the metal hardens. T-800 busts out of it with no damage shown.

http://s9.photobucket.com/user/King...sort=9&o=40


Which is remarkably inconsistent with T2

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Finally Hyper Allow has shown in the movie and comics to tanks more than a few hit of super heated Plasma. The same plasma guns that disintegrate most metals on contact.

http://s9.photobucket.com/user/King...sort=9&o=42


So what? it took prolonged exposure to Cain's plasma cutter to damage Murphy's helmet, and that's after the fall.

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Impressive feats. Then there is also this....

http://s9.photobucket.com/user/King...sort=9&o=10

Hyper allow > Murphy's bullets. Its not much of a argument really.


Repeating one feat twice doesn't make it more impressive. It's still far far less than the skyscraper fall, and the fight around it in total.


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Yes its a M203 or a M79 Grenade Launcher. Considering its under Arm loaded its a M203 that is modified by movie magic for Jhon to carry by hand lol. I merely typed 203mm and sorry for that. I meant M203 which is a 40MM grenade. Typo my bad. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Yes being hit by over 40 tons at 50 MPH and then dragged under, and then blown up with a far greater explosive force of a tanker of propane, yes it is alot more impressive than Gravity of a 30 story fall on a gas line.


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Calm down.
K, tell me how slow ass Robocop comes close to laying a hand on the T Unit.

He won't.

He slow.


Robo gets his head ripped off.


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K, tell me how slow ass Robocop comes close to laying a hand on the T Unit.

He won't.

He slow.


Robo gets his head ripped off.


Umm, you realize the T-800 isn't some speedsters.

Robocop with his targeting and tracking computer could if he wanted to unload directly into the T-800's optical/eyes with 100% accuracy in a ranged right.

And as far as "Robocop is slow", his reflexes are superhuman when it comes to his arms and hands. He caught a bullet between his fingers thereby saving Lewis. /boom


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Umm, you realize the T-800 isn't some speedsters.

Robocop with his targeting and tracking computer could if he wanted to unload directly into the T-800's optical/eyes with 100% accuracy in a ranged right.

And as far as "Robocop is slow", his reflexes are superhuman when it comes to his arms and hands. He caught a bullet between his fingers thereby saving Lewis. /boom
The T Unit is fast enough to get behind Robo and rip his head off. Name a scene where Robo nailed someone between the eyes when they were on a dead run. Everyone Robo shot with said accuracy was standing still.

T unit has a targeting system too, and he is a WAY faster draw. One shot to the dome effed up Robo's targeting system, remember?


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Robocop won says the experts.

Game over

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The T Unit is fast enough to get behind Robo and rip his head off.

Name a scene where Robo nailed someone between the eyes when they were on a dead run. Everyone Robo shot with said accuracy was standing still.

T unit has a targeting system too, and he is a WAY faster draw. One shot to the dome effed up Robo's targeting system, remember?


T-800's are no speedsters; they're not "getting behind and ripping off heads", especially from off a cyborg as sturdily built as Robocop.

"Robocop never shot out eyes, therefore he can't" is a silly argument considering his targeting systems is clearly explained to us. But to answer your question: in the coke-lab scene, he was walking around and shooting guys without having to look at them, since he already targeted. /boom

The T-800 missed a lot, otherwise both Kyle and Sarah would have been dead. How are the T-800's arms/hands faster to Robocop who can catch a bullet between his fingers?


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The T-800 missed a lot, otherwise both Kyle and Sarah would have been dead. How are the T-800's arms/hands faster to Robocop who can catch a bullet between his fingers?


Just wanted to point out the obvious for this comment. T-800 in Termintor 2 movie, as well the James Cameron T-2 3D for Universal Studios, as well the T-850 of Terminator 3 film were all perfect shots with said weapons. Meaning the only T-800 that miss shots was the first one.

Brings up 2 possible reasons. 1) that later terminators were better shots than the first. Not likely. 2) first Terminator miss a lot because of plot. That seems right.

Either way saying Terminator misses a lot is inaccurate as 2 films by James Cameron, and another with a upgraded in armor and power source Terminator show perfect accuracy compared to the single movie of the first one who was the bad guy.


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T-850 is not the T-800. So it's T1 missing and T2 not missing. One for one.

Either way, that is not more accurate than Robocop who doesn't have to look at targets after he's locked on and never missed when he was in proper working order in all 3 films, iirc.

Accuracy goes to Robocop, even if it is not by a massive margin.


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T-800's are no speedsters; they're not "getting behind and ripping off heads", especially from off a cyborg as sturdily built as Robocop.

"Robocop never shot out eyes, therefore he can't" is a silly argument considering his targeting systems is clearly explained to us. But to answer your question: in the coke-lab scene, he was walking around and shooting guys without having to look at them, since he already targeted. /boom

The T-800 missed a lot, otherwise both Kyle and Sarah would have been dead. How are the T-800's arms/hands faster to Robocop who can catch a bullet between his fingers?
You're taking what I say and twisting it around.


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T-850 is not the T-800. So it's T1 missing and T2 not missing. One for one.

Either way, that is not more accurate than Robocop who doesn't have to look at targets after he's locked on and never missed when he was in proper working order in all 3 films, iirc.

Accuracy goes to Robocop, even if it is not by a massive margin.


Actually T2 3D counts as it was written and directed by James Cameron as a short film for Universal exclusively. With Arnorld in his role again. Everything about it is legit really from a canon and production standpoint. Fact many people did not see is the only argument against it.

Also T-850 is not T-800, however T-850 is only stated to be different in power cells and armor. Thats it. I see no reason why feats for it is discounted all together unless you have source saying everything including CPU of it is different from the machine before it? But I will concede not including T-850 even though its the same machine with upgraded armor and power cell.

Also I would not argue T-800 is more accurate than Robo cop, thats not true at all. Robo Cop has better accuracy feats of pin point targeting. The fact however is T-800 rarely miss. Even in the first movie he could shoot cops through walls and nail them.

http://s9.photobucket.com/user/King...?sort=9&o=4

Saying T-800 miss all the time when various films showed this is untrue including the first one against anything not Sarah or Reese is kinda misleading.


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You're taking what I say and twisting it around.


You said: "T Unit is fast enough to get behind Robo and rip his head off."

I disagreed and told you why; there was no "twisting".


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Here is the T2 3D btw. Great short film by Cameron, Hamilton, and Arnold.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM0EZTwE9fM


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