Interesting scan.
Looks like trading blows to me.
Also looks like using powers in such fast combination as to give him the strength, speed, and invulnerability to catch a super strength punch without being pulped. Then hit back.
Please show a single feat of UB actually trading blows with anyone on this level.
That is a single feat of him striking someone while he's also dodging them. I can show several where he's been put down by people far below anyone here because he is focused on his super strength. I've seen KK put him down my timing his strike to hit when UB was using speed or strength rather than durability (something he can't do to either Superboy or mon-el all he's ever done to them is divert their attack).
An even more important thing is showing a scan of him facing anyone when other legionaries who have speed are t around. The reason is that a legion flight ring allows the wearer to fly at the speed of the fastest flight ring wearer near them. In every single fight UB has ever been in courtesy of the flight ring and fast team mates he can move faster than he will ever move in a solo battle here. The feats simply aren't transferable so please stop debating on an issue that it null and void. There was a reason I mentioned his team mates help, it's the fact that their presence gives him speed he would otherwise not have.
Actually, you said he never fights solo, so experience in doing so was lacking.
Be that as it may, you're post is at least viable. The posts i've been disagreeing with have had UB low ended unfairly and unrealistically.
So, even though you asked nicely, no, i wont stop debating.
I should have been clearer. The reason for stating it was for the speed the flight ring gives him (at least in flight) when he's near other legionares also wearing one who have speed. For example if wildfire is near who flies at speed without a ring then UB's flight ring allows him to fly as fast as him. When he's Ina team That includes Mon-el where flight is concerned he can move at Mon-el's speed even without using his speed power.
He quite simply operates at a vastly higher base speed when fighting along side his team mates then he would without them. His feats prior to the flight rings are virtually pitiful, many low end LoSH enemies could take him out. It doesn't increase his reaction but it does allow him to move faster by an immense margin than he would here in any solo fight without using his super speed.
Please dont take my rebuttal the wrong way, you're the only one really debating rather than low balling for lulz...
With no Legionnaires around, do you see it as possible under KMC "fight at best" rules that he'd augment his ring with his own ability to fly and move at speed?
Also, i've seen the KK sparring match. That was more a case if KK's usual high showings against Superboy level opponents, with some PIS thrown in (i did mention PIS earlier).
In no way am i discounting the match, though. Especially as UB did get one up on KK (something his equal level teammates have been hard pressed to do) by NOT switching powers. Turning his weakness into a strength.
UB is smarter than given credit for.
Not really, no. He should only get speed with the ring when he's using speed solo.
The best Legionare user of a flight ring by far was/is Dream girl. Believing her power to see the future was pretty useless she became quite the Martial artist and learned to use the ring offensively. Where most only used it to fly or as a comms device she used it's mentally controlled anti grav properties to emulate TK and used it with her will to create a hi grav fields around objects or people she wanted to move (like adversaries). UB and. Brinn (Timberwolf) used it most after her (in brims case to make his acrobatics even more impressive)
Firstly, i'm pretty happy with the list(s) that were posted earlier. At least a few people see my side, and this isnt worth ranting and raving over.
Second, i really appreciate your posts.
Third, on a different subject, i wanted to ask last night but you'd logged off: are you sure the rings work the way you say?
I'd never heard of this speed borrowing till you brought it up, which is no big deal. But last night i saw a scan of UB, Mon-El and two femsle members, one was Dream Girl i think, rushing somewhere.
The ladies were struggling to keep up, as the guys were in a tush. Shouldnt they all have been going the same speed?
I'll try and find it shsin, but it made me wonder.
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