Heh heh, this Savage wank pleases me.Said Jedi actually managed to withstand his lightining for a time:And tbh, Malgus was amped on pain and rage at this point.
He struggled even to put Jace down, and the guy didn't die.
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Savage is considerably more durable than any of these two, I agree with ILS, it will merely fuel is rage.
Like this, for example:
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And to add more ammunition to this lumbering giant nonsense:
(please log in to view the image)You need to account for Kenobi superb skill as a lightsaber duellist, skill Malgus does not possess. This is a demonstration of his sheer mastery of Ataru, not Savage's defensive weaknesses, given that Maul - an exceptional duellist himself - was just as stunned by Kenobi's tactics.
Ventress' lack of a lightsaber combined with her small physicque and the tight space made it easy for her to slip beneath Savage's offenses and land some hits. Malgus wouldn't be able to replicate that unless he has mini shotos attached to his fists.
EDIT: ILS has raised good points about his defense capabilities against Maul however. And on top of that Maul has defended himself against Darth Sidious himself, which according to Filoni puts him above the B-Team. On top of that the saberstaff by way of surface area would naturally bolster his defensive capabilities.
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I'm getting food atm, but I'm just going to say for now that my post isn't in favor of Malgus. Just highlighting Savage's defensive capabilities. Malgus definitely has similar faults.
Sidestepping a stab from the Jedi, Malgus rode his motion into a Force-augmented spinning side kick that hit the Jedi in the ribs and sent him cartwheeling into the wall of nearby building. At the same time, he reached out with the Force for the hidden light-side user, brushed aside the resistance he felt, and pulled the Jedi out of hiding.
A human male in his twenties rose up out of ruins, dangling like a fish on the hook of Malgus's power. His legs kicked futilely; the green blade of his lightsaber cut at empty air; he gagged as Malgus's power squeezed shut his throat.
"Vorin!" shouted the Zabrak.
"So much for your ambush," Malgus said, and closed his fist, crushing Vorin's windpipe. He let the body fall to the charred earth.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: The Third Lesson
5. Overwhelming Lightsaber-augmented defenses of a very powerful Jedi with Force Lightning Storm, wrecking him.
At 10 meters, Malgus extended his free hand and loosed veins of blue Force lightning. They struck the charging Jedi: swept through his defenses, swirled around him, and began to burn flesh.
Shouting with pain, the Jedi leaned forward into the lightning - teeth bare, blue blades held before him - and staggered toward Malgus. Despite his burns, he came onward. One step, another, another, but he was failing, wilting in the heat of the lightning. Malgus channeled more power and the Jedi fell to his knees, screaming. The lightning spiraled around the Zabrak, blasting dark holes in his body. The lightsabers fell from his hands and he writhed in agony, screaming his pain into the sky.
Malgus ended his attack. The Jedi, ruined, fell to the ground and rolled over onto his back. His breathing sounded worse than Malgus's.
Malgus strode to his side and stood over him.
He found that he admired the Jedi's mettle.
He deactivated his lightsaber.
The Jedi, his face twisted with pain, stared up at Malgus. One of the horns on his head had cracked from the heat of the Force lightning. The Jedi's eyes went to the deactivated lightsaber in Malgus's fist and he cocked his head.
Malgus read the question in his eyes. Mercy from a Sith? Malgus smiled. He stepped forward, activated his blade, and stabbed the Jedi through the chest.
Taken from Star Wars: The Old Republic: The Third Lesson
3) Dooku's lightning isn't that amazeballs. And him being able to handle Savage without any effort tells me that a lesser Sith lightning casted out with concentration can at least harm the Zabrak.
3. The missile made a pretty big mess of his face.
4. Savage Force choked Dooku & Ventress before his prime.
5. While fueled by pain, yet despite that he is still able to resist for a time. This same lightning having been resisted by Jace Malcolm.
Savage is perfectly capable of withstanding these attacks, and has learned how to deflect it.It's significantly superior to Hope Malgus. Dooku could all but instantly kill scores of non-Force sensitives at once, whereas Malgus struggles to incapacitate one. So I think any damage it does will be made up for in the rage it generates.
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It's balls are amazing enough for it to be exempt of a comparison to Malgus' lightning. And honestly I don't think the number of hands you use contributes much in terms of potency; seems a little bit artificial when what really matters is how much of yourself you put into it. With that said, Dooku killing multiple Kiffar and multiple Nightbrothers (who all have above-human durability) with his lightning is enough to suggest that it's substantially beyond Hope Malgus', which has killed one Jedi with difficulty.
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Obi Wan and Kiplee struggled to contain a one handed lightning attack from Dooku. Dooku's also laid waist to a group of zabraks, and can instantly KO powerful force users such as Bulq with a single short blasts. He's also KO'd Anakin after a few seconds worth of lightning. Ventress was also floored despite catching a lightning assault from Dooku with her saber, nearly being overwhelmed by the attack right before Dooku relented to make his exit.
Malgus's lightning isn't doing shit to Savage other than get him pissed, which will result in Malgus perhaps being throttled to death.
Basically everything ILS and Beniboy said.
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I've always thought it did, considering more power can be poured out. Regardless, Dooku has KO'd powerful force users with one handed attacks (Anakin; Bulq), and nearly overwhelmed the saber defenses of Kenobi and Kiplee at once. Not to mention how he took out a group of clone troopers with a one handed assault in Yoda's battle with Sidious in the spirit plane. True, it wasn't the actual Dooku, but that sequence of the ritual was meant to be real from Yoda's POV, so I don't presume anything was meant to be exaggerated.
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You are aware that its burned holes through Jedi right? If it connects with Savage he's done?
But I agree this version of Malgus loses
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Yeah, but that wasn't this Malgus. Regardless, blaster bolts burn holes through jedi too, yet Savage tanks multiple. Though that might be because of armor, IDK (I don't recall seeing the source for it). Either way Dooku's opponents were more powerful and he wasn't aiming to kill them.
Sinious, Savage has beaten people who are on similar in power to Satele.
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Bypassing the force defenses of a Jedi that can collapse buildings onto him with lightning is quite different than just being shot. But ok. He's also killed three Jedi on contact with his lightning as well
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