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Dooku also beat him.

Dooku and Sidious.
Vos also won. Shameful.

Dooku should win every time.

When did Dooku run into maul ?


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Vos also won. Shameful.

Dooku should win every time.

When did Dooku run into maul ?



Dooku won also. We can do this all day.

What?

Son of Dathomir you ignorant fool.


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Dooku shocks the weakling.

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Dooku won also. We can do this all day.

What?

Son of Dathomir you ignorant fool.
But Vos beat him who is less than Maul.


When in continuity did these two meet ? Maul never ran into Dooku.


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But Vos beat him who is less than Maul.


When in continuity did these two meet ? Maul never ran into Dooku.


Dooku beat him who is greater than both.

Son of Dathomir which is canon.


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Dooku beat him who is greater than both.

Son of Dathomir which is canon.
No, he isn't.

Prove it.


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No, he isn't.

Prove it.


I actually have heard a book review of Dark disciple but I'm still going to order it so I can read it for myself. However what I gathered from it is that vos and Ventress already attempted to fight Dooku together and that ended in the team losing. How're they fought again and all three had suffered from a building collapsing on them and they all suffered loss of blood and other types of injuries and then Dooku killed Ventress who he was actually trying to kill vos but Ventress moved out the way. With that vos got a huge rage amp. We all know force rage amps your abilities as seen with Anakin and Starkiller. With that it was an enraged vos vs an injured Dooku. With that of course Dooku would be disarmed he's at a clear disadvantage. However when all are at full health and strenght Dooku casually defeated Ventress disarming her of one her blades and taking her down and then capturing Quin.

https://youtu.be/GcD3j1j_TbU 0:50-0:57 read the :57 caption.


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I actually have heard a book review of Dark disciple but I'm still going to order it so I can read it for myself. However what I gathered from it is that vos and Ventress already attempted to fight Dooku together and that ended in the team losing. How're they fought again and all three had suffered from a building collapsing on them and they all suffered loss of blood and other types of injuries and then Dooku killed Ventress who he was actually trying to kill vos but Ventress moved out the way. With that vos got a huge rage amp. We all know force rage amps your abilities as seen with Anakin and Starkiller. With that it was an enraged vos vs an injured Dooku. With that of course Dooku would be disarmed he's at a clear disadvantage. However when all are at full health and strenght Dooku casually defeated Ventress disarming her of one her blades and taking her down and then capturing Quin.

https://youtu.be/GcD3j1j_TbU 0:50-0:57 read the :57 caption.
Anakin had a rage amp and lost to Kenobi so no excuses. Dooku is weak.

Maul is greater than weakling Dooku.


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Anakin had a rage amp and lost to Kenobi so no excuses. Dooku is weak.

Maul is greater than weakling Dooku.


Actually is debatable on that as he wasn't thinking straight. Also Dooku lacked the strenght kenobi had to some extent and he wasn't the master of soresu Obi was and he didn't know Anakins style inside and out like kenobi. So these aren't excuses just facts. Dooku is one of the most powerful characters in the force in all of Star Wars, canon and the expanded universe, and he is one of the most skilled comabatnats with a lightsaber in all of Star Wars canon and all.

Dooku is a greater swordsman.
Dooku is a greater force weilder.
Dooku is smarter than maul.
Dooku is faster than maul.
Dooku is more experienced than maul.
Dooku has the better weapon.
Dooku has better showings.

So again I ask you what does maul have that can conclusively win him the battle because him being younger isn't a problem as Dooku has shown he can handle much faster and stronger opponents.


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Actually is debatable on that as he wasn't thinking straight. Also Dooku lacked the strenght kenobi had to some extent and he wasn't the master of soresu Obi was and he didn't know Anakins style inside and out like kenobi. So these aren't excuses just facts. Dooku is one of the most powerful characters in the force in all of Star Wars, canon and the expanded universe, and he is one of the most skilled comabatnats with a lightsaber in all of Star Wars canon and all.

Dooku is a greater swordsman.
Dooku is a greater force weilder.
Dooku is smarter than maul.
Dooku is faster than maul.
Dooku is more experienced than maul.
Dooku has the better weapon.
Dooku has better showings.

So again I ask you what does maul have that can conclusively win him the battle because him being younger isn't a problem as Dooku has shown he can handle much faster and stronger opponents.
He had a rage amp. RGe makes people think rage. Nah, you mDe things up without any official backing.


Nah, Maul had him as his prisoner and was greater than Dooku even according to Sidious since he called him a rival.

Maul has better showings. Dooku lost to Vos.

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He had a rage amp. RGe makes people think rage. Nah, you mDe things up without any official backing.


Nah, Maul had him as his prisoner and was greater than Dooku even according to Sidious since he called him a rival.

Maul has better showings. Dooku lost to Vos.

laughing out loud


Starkiller and Anakin. Once they taped into their force rage they were able to do things they weren't normally able to do,like defeat Dooku and pull of amazing force feats. How is it made up,when I get it from the movie? You really are bad at this.

Dooku and Sidious had him as a prisoner and at least Sidiosu did it himself while maul needed his men to do it. Maul needed the aid of his men to do that. Sidious didn't. Ive already addressed this. Sidious meant as a Sith faction not a rival in Dooku. Just because we never see Sidious call him a rival Dooku has more than proven himself.

What showings does maul have that top Dooku? Let's compare them. Dooku also beat vos and Ventress before when everyone was normal and were at tip top health thus reaffirming that Dooku is superior to vos as he always has been.


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Starkiller and Anakin. Once they taped into their force rage they were able to do things they weren't normally able to do,like defeat Dooku and pull of amazing force feats. How is it made up,when I get it from the movie? You really are bad at this.

Dooku and Sidious had him as a prisoner and at least Sidiosu did it himself while maul needed his men to do it. Maul needed the aid of his men to do that. Sidious didn't. Ive already addressed this. Sidious meant as a Sith faction not a rival in Dooku. Just because we never see Sidious call him a rival Dooku has more than proven himself.

What showings does maul have that top Dooku? Let's compare them. Dooku also beat vos and Ventress before when everyone was normal and were at tip top health thus reaffirming that Dooku is superior to vos as he always has been.
So you don't believe Anakin can beat him despite seeing it. Kenobi beat him even angrier. laughing out loud

Maul was busted out. **** yeah, weak Sheev. He was scared of Talzin. No, you speculated without proof. Dooku also lost to Vos. Weak Vos.

Maul wins; faster and more athletic.


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So you don't believe Anakin can beat him despite seeing it. Kenobi beat him even angrier. laughing out loud

Maul was busted out. **** yeah, weak Sheev. He was scared of Talzin. No, you speculated without proof. Dooku also lost to Vos. Weak Vos.

Maul wins; faster and more athletic.


Not without that amp he couldn't.

He was scarred of Sheev. Did you not see the episode where he completely obliterated him. No I've used evidence from the movie and other sources. Anakin was getting kicked around and wasn't getting anywhere with Dooku however when he got angry.

Okay here is proof. Maul couldn't do anything toward Sidious. He couldn't even compete when he was just playing around. Again circumstances and Dooku already beat vos earlier so your point has been debunked.

What showings? You said you had showings that maul is better what showings so we can compare. Maul is not faster than Dooku. Maul is defintly slower. Dooku wins with ease. Dooku is able to defeat someone who maul couldn't beat even with the aid of his brother. Maul is weak.


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Not without that amp he couldn't.

He was scarred of Sheev. Did you not see the episode where he completely obliterated him. No I've used evidence from the movie and other sources. Anakin was getting kicked around and wasn't getting anywhere with Dooku however when he got angry.

Okay here is proof. Maul couldn't do anything toward Sidious. He couldn't even compete when he was just playing around. Again circumstances and Dooku already beat vos earlier so your point has been debunked.

What showings? You said you had showings that maul is better what showings so we can compare. Maul is not faster than Dooku. Maul is defintly slower. Dooku wins with ease. Dooku is able to defeat someone who maul couldn't beat even with the aid of his brother. Maul is weak.
Speculation.

Who was scared of Sheev ? Anakin was fine and decimated him.

No proof Sheev played around. He called him a rival and actually feared his mama cub. Yes, maul is. Based off what is Dooku faster ?

Maul bested kenobi.


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Speculation.

Who was scared of Sheev ? Anakin was fine and decimated him.

No proof Sheev played around. He called him a rival and actually feared his mama cub. Yes, maul is. Based off what is Dooku faster ?

Maul bested kenobi.


Fact.

Maul defintly was. When he got the amp yea but before he wasn't getting anywhere.

Yes there is. First off why did he just let maul from his force grip at the very begging and why was he laughing througout the whole battle. A rival,faction not in skill as seen by how he couldn't compete, and he was wary she was growing to powerful. We see he took her own without issue. The fact that Dooku is far superior in the force and has defeated swordsman better than maul. What feats do you have that maul is faster.

So to did Dooku. But guess what maul got disarmed by kenobi in a padawan form and then couldn't beat him with his saber even when he had the aid of his brother. Dooku took down savage and Ventress at the same time, and Obi and Anakin and Obi in every fight they have been in.


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Dooku shocks the weakling.
Nah, he would block his lightning with his saber even easier than Kenobi.

Maul wins.


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Fact.

Maul defintly was. When he got the amp yea but before he wasn't getting anywhere.

Yes there is. First off why did he just let maul from his force grip at the very begging and why was he laughing througout the whole battle. A rival,faction not in skill as seen by how he couldn't compete, and he was wary she was growing to powerful. We see he took her own without issue. The fact that Dooku is far superior in the force and has defeated swordsman better than maul. What feats do you have that maul is faster.

So to did Dooku. But guess what maul got disarmed by kenobi in a padawan form and then couldn't beat him with his saber even when he had the aid of his brother. Dooku took down savage and Ventress at the same time, and Obi and Anakin and Obi in every fight they have been in.
Speculation.

Only after he was getting hurt. He paid homage to his former master and once Sheev was acting as a threat he took him on. Maul realized how treacherous his shitty former master was.

He cackled throughout his battle with Yoda. He's an idiot. laughing out loud

Phantom menace. Nah, Dooku lost handily to Anakin and even lost to Vos. Dooku just doesn't cut the mustard here.

He caught him by surprise and cut him in half which didn't kill him. Dooku was betrayed and died by anakin in hysterical wtf just happened fashion. Sheev used him.

Maul also easily beat Savage. Ventress is weak. Maul would beat Dooku. Trust me. Sheev viewed him as a rival not Dooku.


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Speculation.

Only after he was getting hurt. He paid homage to his former master and once Sheev was acting as a threat he took him on. Maul realized how treacherous his shitty former master was.

He cackled throughout his battle with Yoda. He's an idiot. laughing out loud

Phantom menace. Nah, Dooku lost handily to Anakin and even lost to Vos. Dooku just doesn't cut the mustard here.

He caught him by surprise and cut him in half which didn't kill him. Dooku was betrayed and died by anakin in hysterical wtf just happened fashion. Sheev used him.

Maul also easily beat Savage. Ventress is weak. Maul would beat Dooku. Trust me. Sheev viewed him as a rival not Dooku.


Prove it.

Did you not see his facial expression? That was fear. Him paying homage doesn't negate the fact that his facial expression showed fear.

Not as much as he did against maul. Maul was weak.

Phantom menace maul has done nothing that count Dooku as of ROTs and possibly AOTC can't replicate or hasn't already done. Well considering Anakin is above Maul and Vos. Due to being severely weakened and vos having a force rage amp. Maul stands no chance against Dooku. Dookus force edge alone is enough to simply take down maul.

Sheev used maul to. What's your point? He wasn't caught by suprise. If your caught by suprise when you see someone jump over you, you have a seriously problem. Dooku is,superior to maul in basically every way except age. Mauls atheleticsm is matched by dookus superior force powers which has force augmentation which he can use to greater affect than maul. Also if maul gets disarmed and then gets shocked by lightning he's at dookus mercy as seen by how in Son of Dathomir comic Dooku was able to shock maul someone none for their physical durability.

Ventress is actually pretty skilled. Maul has no feats to,suggest that maul would even come close to defeating Dooku. Just because he never said it doesn't mean he ever felt it. Dooku has proven he has surpassed maul and he has earned the titles that maul hasn't and will never earn.

Maul sucks and loses. Dooku kills this zabrak.


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Prove it.

Did you not see his facial expression? That was fear. Him paying homage doesn't negate the fact that his facial expression showed fear.

Not as much as he did against maul. Maul was weak.

Phantom menace maul has done nothing that count Dooku as of ROTs and possibly AOTC can't replicate or hasn't already done. Well considering Anakin is above Maul and Vos. Due to being severely weakened and vos having a force rage amp. Maul stands no chance against Dooku. Dookus force edge alone is enough to simply take down maul.

Sheev used maul to. What's your point? He wasn't caught by suprise. If your caught by suprise when you see someone jump over you, you have a seriously problem. Dooku is,superior to maul in basically every way except age. Mauls atheleticsm is matched by dookus superior force powers which has force augmentation which he can use to greater affect than maul. Also if maul gets disarmed and then gets shocked by lightning he's at dookus mercy as seen by how in Son of Dathomir comic Dooku was able to shock maul someone none for their physical durability.

Ventress is actually pretty skilled. Maul has no feats to,suggest that maul would even come close to defeating Dooku. Just because he never said it doesn't mean he ever felt it. Dooku has proven he has surpassed maul and he has earned the titles that maul hasn't and will never earn.

Maul sucks and loses. Dooku kills this zabrak.
Onus is on you.

Sheev is more skilled and taking on someone greater in his craft is courage. smile

Maul survived. Sheev was weak against Windu. Sheev was also weak when Vader tossed him to his untimely death. big grin

Nah, Kenobi bested him and Maul has always been greater than kenobi skill wise.

Sheev failed to manipulate Maul past phantom. Maul still lives. After taunting your opponent and thinking him weapon less I can see it. Maul survived.

Taking on Sheev, beating Qui, Kenobi, etc. Vos beat Dooku. Awful.

Maul was being held captive and he took it like a champ. Later on Dooku was under Maul. Happy Dance

Maul is a rival to Sheev while Dooku is some yes man he had killed and Dooku just took it. Shameful.


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Onus is on you.

Sheev is more skilled and taking on someone greater in his craft is courage. smile

Maul survived. Sheev was weak against Windu. Sheev was also weak when Vader tossed him to his untimely death. big grin

Nah, Kenobi bested him and Maul has always been greater than kenobi skill wise.

Sheev failed to manipulate Maul past phantom. Maul still lives. After taunting your opponent and thinking him weapon less I can see it. Maul survived.

Taking on Sheev, beating Qui, Kenobi, etc. Vos beat Dooku. Awful.

Maul was being held captive and he took it like a champ. Later on Dooku was under Maul. Happy Dance

Maul is a rival to Sheev while Dooku is some yes man he had killed and Dooku just took it. Shameful.


So Dooku is brave as he took on someone who is above him.

Again Sheev allowed him to win IMO. maul survived because Palptine allowed it. Maul was palpatines *****. Here Sheev was suprised. He was completely focused on Luke and out of no where Vader just picked him up. Maul on the other hand at notice. Shameful.

I'm going to tell you this. Just because someone says something doesn't necessarily makes it true. It depends on the situation and the circumstances of said statement. This as well goes for battles. Just because you beat someone ONCE KEEP IN MIND ONCE that doesn't make you better as you have too look at the circumstances of that battle. Also stop repeating yourself like a baboon. Especially since I've defeated your arguments. Kenobi vs Anakin. Situational problem. Dooku vs Vos. Dooku was severely injured and vos had just gotten a big boost. Maul got cut in half.

Again maul surviving matter how? He is still below Dooku Anakin and everyone.

Please he was WTFPawned by Sidious, it took him several minutes to defeat Jin and then he got disarmed of one of his blades and was cut in half. Then when he and savage challenged kenobi he was able to successfully force them to flee. Wanna know what Dooku has for sabers.

Has disarmed Anakin Skywalker, went toe to toe with yoda and came out alive and was able to keep up with his speed, was able to defeat Obi wan on different occasions with ease, something maul didn't replicate, defeated Ventress, defeated savage oppress, defeated savage and Ventress at one time, defeated Obi and Anakin at one time by himself, defeated Ventress and Quin Lin by himself, trained General Grevious someone who is,able to match Jedi council masters and he is still able to disarm him and ward off his POWERFUL,STRENGTH STRIKES with ease, with that he has a comprehension of all seven forms something that maul doesn't. Yea this is way more than what maul has.

You wanna compare force feats?

Dooku was fried. Dooku was in great pain when talzin entered his body and left and then he got up like a champ. Sidious even saying that you may have dookus body but you don't have skill remarking that he indeed has skill and possibly enough to rival Sidious to an extent.

Maul is a dumb overrated pawn. Sidious didn't even mean in skill so him being considered a rival in skill is out of the question. Dooku has shown he can go with the best of the best. Maul can't.


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