It was in Legends. And no, Plo Koon is one of the most powerful Jedi ever. He factually doesn't suck.
Okay? Yoda didn't rule an Empire, is he worse than Malak now?
He lost his jaw to Darth Revan, and lost to Revan despite Revan running a massive gauntlet beforehand, Malak having a massive nexus to draw on and weaken Revan, and Malak having multiple Jedi to revive himself with. That doesn't preclude the possibility that there could be people better than Malak who are worse than Revan.
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This was early into his training with Dooku, and before he even began training with Maul where he saw more refinement. This was also during a time period where Savage grew "more powerful with every passing day", to the point Dooku felt his power grow from across the galaxy and deemed him "a threat to us all". In other words, Savage has plenty of sources fellating how powerful he is.
Now, do you have some kind of conclusive or even fairly reasonable case for Malak being better than Savage? Other than accolades and unrelated accomplishments like ruling an empire?
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
But his lack of performance in combat situations doesn't bodes well for him and his hype.
Yoda is an exception; he have much greater credibility then Plo Koon.
So?
This still doesn't proves that somebody inferior then Revan could handle Darth Malak.
The word "crude" implies lack of refinement and development. It is a useless statement to cite.
Good for him.
And these were his last words: "Brother, I am an unworthy apprentice. I'm not like you. I never was."
Yes.
- Freezing (powerful) Bastilla Shan and Carth Onasi at the same time
- Repelling a lightsaber-throw attack
- Defeating Bastilla Shan [1 on 1]
- Trapping Revan in a whirlwind of energy
- Freezing Revan
- Force Drain powers
- Force Lightning
Darth Malak also have excellent dueling skills.
Savage Opress doesn't have an answer for advanced Sith powers and neither does he stack up to an opponent as formidable as Darth Malak.
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A Padawan and a random, a Non-Force Sensitive random at that.
I think this goes without saying as being the definition of average for anyone worth mentioning.
Bastila is virtually featless until the string of losses she has at the end of this. She killed one random Dark Jedi, and that's pretty much it.
Which is just TK, something, frankly, Savage outclasses Malak in by miles.
The same amnesiac that doesn't remember anything more than a week of Jedi training.
None of which actually prove superiority in anything, unless you're also going to say that every random with Lighting and Drain is above Savage, and in that case, you could just concede to ILS now.
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So are you saying accolades don't mean shit?
This is what you call double standards. Malak can't be better than one Jedi because he faced the tribulation of ruling an empire but not another. If you concede that it doesn't necessarily make Malak better than Yoda, you concede that it doesn't necessarily make him better than anyone, aside from those within that Empire at least.
And it doesn't, unless you can point what Plo Koon-tier beings Malak was superior to within his empire. And don't say Bandon you ****.
Why are you asking me for proof? It was your assertion that the gap between Revan and Malak is so small that there isn't one person who could fit in between it, despite the fact there's obviously quite a large gap given that Revan defeated Malak with horrific circumstances.
It suggests Savage's mastery is still raw and unrefined, not that the mastery isn't there. So he's still a master even if he's raw in his application. And like I said, he would go on to become much more refined when he trained under Maul; I'd refer you to him decapitating the entire leadership of the Black Sun with one lightsaber throw, stopping a knife millimetres from Maul's head (which Maul had full confidence in him to do), coordinating telekinetic attacks with Maul, and shattering the supposedly impenetrable metal Beskar which was fashioned into a prison cell, which should logically be Beskar in one of it's toughest moulds.
Okay? In what way does this prove Savage is weaker than Malak? You keep bringing up pieces of "evidence", to use the term loosely, that make no real link between Savage and Malak.
The only thing there that could possibly be relevant is Malak rekting Revan. What had Revan done up to that point to suggest parity to Savage, who as I said, has shattered Beskar? The same Savage who also before his prime held Dooku and Ventress by their throats against his their will (granted he was enraged, but he was well before his prime, and Ventress/Dooku combined >>> Malak).
Better than Savage's?
That remains to be proven. All you've done is list that Malak has Force Lightning and Drain. When has he successfully applied either power against someone even remotely comparable to Savage in a combat scenario?
__________________ “The galaxy must experience the pain of death and the rapture of rebirth as I have. I will bring chaos. It is time for war.”
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