Rhetorical question. I am very familiar with Palpatine and force storms. That's why I knew he had never time-dumped anyone.
Anyway, force storms were also very difficult for Palpatine to control, and required ALL of his power/concentration to be effective. We saw what happened when his power/concentration were momentarily severed after conjuring a force storm at the end of the story--his own attack destroyed him. In a nutshell, Palpatine cannot really multitask at all with a force storm in play. It would be an idiotic ability for him to try and use against someone like Cassandra, as it leaves him wide open to [any kind of] attack--especially given that they are on the same battlefield here.
He only used essence transfer when his physical bodies were destroyed. He never just body-hopped for the lulz.
And even then he could only transfer into hollow clones of himself OR beings whose minds were corrupted/broken. Cassandra is obviously neither, so it's not like Palpatine could forcefully overtake her if she destroyed his body or w/e... And if she mind-phucked him, essence transfer goes out the window entirely.
Aside from that, Palpatine cannot do anything at all(from an offensive POV) in his energy form. If he is rendered to that state, Cassandra wins by default.
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Anywho, Cassandra still stomps. The Palpatine wank + total disregard for Cassandra's plethora of various psi feats is baffling.
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I would agree with you...if Nova was utterly helpless without a physical body.
But as she is not helpless without that then well..yeah, Sidious is in way over his head.
I think he'll be torn apart, psychically speaking of course.
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tbh, I don't think Cass was all that impressive. I mean what has she really done that's impressive? Swap minds with Charles? I'm thinking it is because they SHARE the same physic frequency as to why she said she could take him over so easily.
I also find it very hard to believe a telepath can willy nilly take over a being who has tped millions of people all at once. DS mind is very strong. Cass had trouble with Pryde (swapping minds). It would be very hard for her to do if not impossible.
Her other powers wasn't really that impressive. There were several evidences of her being able to lose by simply killing her body. After getting her neck snapped she didn't do much of anything right after but swap minds with Charles (because they share the same physic frequency). She's far weaker, if not, inactive without a body.
DS has options. He has superspeed and can blitz her in an instant.
He can crush her body, lightsaber her to pieces, or electrocute her.
This is all before she can even create a psi armor body.
You say she can attack him without a body? How and in what way? Any scans of her attacking without a body?
What has Cass done without a body? Scans? Because everything she did she was in some body doing it. If she didn't share the same physic frequency as Charles then she would have been inactive for a long while. She transferred unto Charles right before her body was killed. So she had (and needs) a body for her powers to work.
I agree with you on everything here excepts Cass stomps. Her feats doesn't prove it to me. Her feats were either context based or not very impressive IMO (when it comes to a character like Pal). There is absolutely no feats that support her being able to take over Pals mind (a being powerful enough to mindrape millions of beings at the same time) BEFORE he destroys her body. He has superspeed and reflexes and from my knowledge, she doesn't start the battle with shields up (although that won't help her).
I read through most of her stuff (new x-men and astonishing) and she didn't see impressive on the level of high herald or better. I would rank her about low to mid herald at best. She still can be koed if you attack fast enough. And if you have a little tp resistance then that can buy you time.
IMO Dr. Xavier has more impressive tp feats (like making all the avengers sleep on command).
lol, no one showed scans of her being able to attack WITHOUT a body.
In the stories she always had a body in which to operate her powers from. She was easily put down with a neck snap. She had trouble controlling several characters (they were able to put up a fight or not be affected). But while in Charles body she seemed more powerful.
At best, she was able to exist in her created psi gel-like body once Xavier forced her out. But there was no evidence of how long she can sustain that way and no evidence that she has tp attacking powers in that state.
I disagree, his use of body swapping in Dark Saber on Bevel Lemelisk, not just once but numerous times, seemed to me like it was done primarily for the lolz. My post also wasn't meant to highlight mindswapping, essence swapping or whatever as a valid tactic for Palpatine to utilize and win, but to question that Cassandra Nova would be capable of just walking right in with her essence, given that Palpatine has experience against this, from using it on himself and others.
With that said, I completely agree that Cassandra Nova stomps, that has never been in question. I just think Cassandra will win by turning Palpatines mind into mush. That seems to me as being her favorite way of attacking anyways.
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If her neck is snapped she'll just try to then take over Palpatines mind and body. How do you think he would fare in a mental battle against her? It won't end well.
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