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Anakin was piloting a tank, managing it's weapons/systems and avoiding the weapons of the Dark Reaper while keeping his Drain Immunity up. Which sounds to me like he was also doing it with no effort while multi-tasking.
Last edited by Zenwolf on Jul 1st, 2016 at 07:57 PM
Seeing as how Vader's feats give him the ability to exert the Force to a degree orders of magnitude beyond the duo, he could be putting 70% of his focus on that and still win. I mean, Force users have to put up a shield against offensive attacks (PoD) while also dealing with melee maneuvers, minding their footwork, etc.
Vader is so much stronger than them both that their drain won't matter. He has a better chance of just snapping their necks outright.
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Plagueis, by time it's all said and done, ended up above Tenebrous by a decent degree. Palpatine - by RotS alone - was above Plagueis by a decent amount himself. That degree grown even more so by RotJ; which is the period where Vader is 80% Palpatine's power per Lucas.
Given the wide gap between Sidious and Tenebrous through factual power levels and such, it seems rather unlikely that he would be anything more than 70% Sidious power using Lucas' scale. He certainly shouldn't be anything more than 8/10 that power.
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You have no idea how said machine works, however, and are ignoring the fact Surik's drain isn't the conventional aspect of force drain.
Uliq taught the Jedi Order how to defeat the Dark Reaper the first time, yet Kreia still defines force drain as having "no defense", when the Dark Reaper crisis only happened half a century prior. To suggest she, a Jedi Historian, simply wasn't aware of one is ridiculous. Far more likely is it that the Force Reaper defense simply doesn't work.
Also please cite a single enemy "less powerful than Vader" who was "barely affected by it."
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Pretty much what I said. But please, do continue telling me how I know nothing while making statements that contradict factual evidence.
Also, I'm going to need proof, not your conjecture, that Surik's drain is somehow unique from the actual description of Drain that also applies to the Dark Reaper;
Traya was talking about herself not being able to defend against Nihilus' Sever Force, not drain. Besides, you're using a rather large no limit fallacy here. I am to assume now that Meetra can drain every single Force user she fights? Yoda? Palpatine? The Ones? The Bedlams? Is there a limit? There obviously is one, and currently her limit is sub-Vader scrubs, so I doubt that'll make a change in this fight.
Traya, Nyriss, Sion, etc. They were, indeed, barely affected by it. And even Nihilus, someone who's magnitude sh!ts on Meetra's, couldn't kill a non-Force sensitive during combat with his passive Force Drain, so why Surik can make a big change against Vader via her passive Drain is beyond me.
Lucas specifically said "Now Vader is maybe 20% less" not his potential is "20% less". It was pretty clear he was talking about current, and not some future shit.
Lucas said "it could've been 200%, now it's 80%". That's clearly a reference to potential, since he's talking about Vader immediately following the events of Mustafar.
Otherwise, Vader, right as he's reconstructed after Mustafar, is 80% of Sidious. That's laughable, considering that despite his rage and explosive usages of the Force in the operation room, he couldn't even affect Sidious. That wouldn't be the case if he had 80% of Sidious' power.
Yet clearly while he's multi-tasking on other things, he can do it without effort. Divided attention is still divided, has nothing to do using The Force.
Jul 1st, 2016 07:42 PM
