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Speed is not a problem. This is composite Godzilla. He regularly hits aircraft going supersonic from miles away. Rodan, Mother, Battra and others all have speeds at Mach 3 +. Godzilla's got this.

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Being born of radiation wouldn't help him survive a nuke

Hulk does no damage and gets vaporized


It's questionable if Gdz's breath would take out Hulk, but it would have to hit him first and Hulk can jump several miles in a single leap and run at over 250mph all while being a very small target.

How can you say Hulk does "no damage", maybe not at baseline but he gets stronger and stronger the longer he fights/angrier he gets.


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Godzilla wins

Omni-directional Nuclear Pulse attack for the win stick out tongue


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Red spiral beam for the win.


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Red spiral beam for the win.


Red Spiral Nuclear Pulse Attack for the win since it killed a 300-600 meter tall kaiju roll eyes (sarcastic)


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I haven't watched a lot of Godzilla movies to know all his feats...

But what if the Hulk clamped G's mouth shut mid atomic breath?

Internal combustion?

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It's questionable if Gdz's breath would take out Hulk, but it would have to hit him first and Hulk can jump several miles in a single leap and run at over 250mph all while being a very small target.

How can you say Hulk does "no damage", maybe not at baseline but he gets stronger and stronger the longer he fights/angrier he gets.
Hulk has shown that a powerful enough hit can KO him. Hulk relies or Brute strength. Hulk would go straight for Godzilla with no technique or planning.

As stated in previous post Godzilla has hit moving targets that move at the same if not greater speeds than the Hulk has shown and from far away distances.

The Hulk would most likely get KOed before reaching a strength level that would KO Godzilla.

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As stated in previous post Godzilla has hit moving targets that move at the same if not greater speeds than the Hulk has shown and from far away distances.




For what I've seen those targets were always in front of Godzilla & they never actually try & swerve away from his atomic breath.

I've also seen Godzilla getting tackled from behind & toppling over, he's too bulky & slow to dodge, side step or swing around quickly enough to defend himself.

Hulk would surely use the advantage of attacking Godzilla from behind.

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he would try, and then do absolutely nothing to him

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Hulk has shown that a powerful enough hit can KO him. Hulk relies or Brute strength. Hulk would go straight for Godzilla with no technique or planning.

As stated in previous post Godzilla has hit moving targets that move at the same if not greater speeds than the Hulk has shown and from far away distances.

The Hulk would most likely get KOed before reaching a strength level that would KO Godzilla.


Hulk isn't exactly stupid. He's smart enough to improvise metal shields and gloves in the IH movie, smart enough to differentiate friend from foe when he's not being manipulated.

As for GZ hitting fast moving targets, question: Were they as small as Hulk?


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For what I've seen those targets were always in front of Godzilla & they never actually try & swerve away from his atomic breath.

I've also seen Godzilla getting tackled from behind & toppling over, he's too bulky & slow to dodge, side step or swing around quickly enough to defend himself.

Hulk would surely use the advantage of attacking Godzilla from behind.
When did the Hulk become a tactician? We have seen Godzilla use tactics such as when he fought the Mutos and open its mouth to take it out. Wait and use it tails at the right moment to defeat the Muto while it was flying.

You act as if the creatures that attack Godzilla from behind were slow.

Hulk will go straight towards Godzilla and try to use his brute strength on him as he does every opponent he faces.

I don't get this argument where Hulk suddenly uses tactics to defeat his opponents.

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Hulk isn't exactly stupid. He's smart enough to improvise metal shields and gloves in the IH movie, smart enough to differentiate friend from foe when he's not being manipulated.

As for GZ hitting fast moving targets, question: Were they as small as Hulk?
I would argue that Hulk is larger or slightly smaller than some Jets or Helicopters.

That does not change the fact that Hulks first move will be to go head on to Godzilla. Why is this being disputed?

Hulk being able to differentiate does not make him a tactician in battle. Hulk will not match Godzilla strength initially and may be KOed quickly.

Your whole argument rest upon the fact that you are stating that Hulk is too small and fast. He is not more maneuverable or faster than Jets which Godzilla has hit.

Hulk would have to get close to Godzilla which I see no reason to believe that Godzilla would not be able to hit the Hulk.

Humans are able to hit flies and insects, Hulk would be no different to Godzilla.

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I would argue that Hulk is larger or slightly smaller than some Jets or Helicopters.

That does not change the fact that Hulks first move will be to go head on to Godzilla. Why is this being disputed?

Hulk being able to differentiate does not make him a tactician in battle. Hulk will not match Godzilla strength initially and may be KOed quickly.

Your whole argument rest upon the fact that you are stating that Hulk is too small and fast. He is not more maneuverable or faster than Jets which Godzilla has hit.

Hulk would have to get close to Godzilla which I see no reason to believe that Godzilla would not be able to hit the Hulk.

Humans are able to hit flies and insects, Hulk would be no different to Godzilla.


You're talking about Hulk like he's some dumb idiot who's just going to jump right into Godzilla's mouth. He may not be a strategist but what you're describing is pure idiocy that so far he's never displayed. First of all, I'm unsure if he can jump high enough to get to GZ's face. So he'll probably jump high enough to latch on to it's hip or something and move from there. As for Hulk being larger than planes... you're going to have to prove that.

Humans are able to hit flies but not quite easily. How many humans do you know that can instantly hit a fly on the first try? Besides, flies are not intent on harming humans so they don't fly with a specific goal in mind and humans are smarter than Godzilla. And insects don't have the same size to strength ratio that Hulk will have against GZ


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You're talking about Hulk like he's some dumb idiot who's just going to jump right into Godzilla's mouth. He may not be a strategist but what you're describing is pure idiocy that so far he's never displayed. First of all, I'm unsure if he can jump high enough to get to GZ's face. So he'll probably jump high enough to latch on to it's hip or something and move from there. As for Hulk being larger than planes... you're going to have to prove that.

Humans are able to hit flies but not quite easily. How many humans do you know that can instantly hit a fly on the first try? Besides, flies are not intent on harming humans so they don't fly with a specific goal in mind and humans are smarter than Godzilla. And insects don't have the same size to strength ratio that Hulk will have against GZ
The Hulk is dumb and has always been. I'm not sure how you see him as otherwise. He has always been about Brute strength.

Please describe an example where Hulk does not charge forward without thinking into battle. I do not recall any. Using all versions of the Hulk he has visibly been shown to be larger than a Jet. Even if most versions aren't he is still quite large.

The point with the fly example is humans do eventually hit them and they usually are KOed or die. Flies and some insects are extremely strong for their size, but compare to a human their strength is irrelevant. The same would prove true for the Hulk.

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The Hulk is dumb and has always been. I'm not sure how you see him as otherwise. He has always been about Brute strength.

Please describe an example where Hulk does not charge forward without thinking into battle. I do not recall any. Using all versions of the Hulk he has visibly been shown to be larger than a Jet. Even if most versions aren't he is still quite large.

The point with the fly example is humans do eventually hit them and they usually are KOed or die. Flies and some insects are extremely strong for their size, but compare to a human their strength is irrelevant. The same would prove true for the Hulk.


If Hulk was as big as a jet, explain to me how he was able to ride one in the Avengers?

Being about brute strength does not mean that one is dumb. I already posted examples of Hulk improvising steel shields and gauntlets to assist him in a fight. Is smart enough to understand basic orders and work with teammates. Are you going to continue ignoring these?

And as I mentioned, humans EVENTUALLY do hit flies, except that flies are not intent on harming humans which Hulk is going to be. And a bee is not much bigger than a fly but is capable of hurting a human. Could you imagine what would happen if a bee was intent on hurting a human, was smart enough to understand basic orders and was capable of repeatedly stinging the person? Or smart enough to know to go for the eyes?


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If Hulk was as big as a jet, explain to me how he was able to ride one in the Avengers?
I did mentioned using all versions not one in specific and that not all versions were as big.

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Being about brute strength does not mean that one is dumb. I already posted examples of Hulk improvising steel shields and gauntlets to assist him in a fight. Is smart enough to understand basic orders and work with teammates. Are you going to continue ignoring these?
It is really not that much to argue here. You actually stating that the Hulk is an intelligent fighter is hilarious. Using an object to assist you makes you intelligent as a fighter?

Yes, the Hulk will use objects, he is an angry fighter. I got it. You still haven't explain or shown that Hulk would resort to strategy once he realizes his initial hits are having no effect.

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And as I mentioned, humans EVENTUALLY do hit flies, except that flies are not intent on harming humans which Hulk is going to be. And a bee is not much bigger than a fly but is capable of hurting a human. Could you imagine what would happen if a bee was intent on hurting a human, was smart enough to understand basic orders and was capable of repeatedly stinging the person? Or smart enough to know to go for the eyes?
Dude Bees are very intelligent. You are actually comparing Hulks intelligence to a bee? Really, dude?

Your example still fails. A human chances of killing a bee, or fly, etc, is much higher than any of those creatures killing a human no matter how intelligent they are due to mere physics.


How about, this, correct me if I am wrong. Your argument is the Hulk is powerful enough and fast, agile and to small to be hit by Godzilla and would eventually pound Godzilla to death, correct?

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I did mentioned using all versions not one in specific and that not all versions were as big.

It is really not that much to argue here. You actually stating that the Hulk is an intelligent fighter is hilarious. Using an object to assist you makes you intelligent as a fighter?

Yes, the Hulk will use objects, he is an angry fighter. I got it. You still haven't explain or shown that Hulk would resort to strategy once he realizes his initial hits are having no effect.

Dude Bees are very intelligent. You are actually comparing Hulks intelligence to a bee? Really, dude?

Your example still fails. A human chances of killing a bee, or fly, etc, is much higher than any of those creatures killing a human no matter how intelligent they are due to mere physics.


How about, this, correct me if I am wrong. Your argument is the Hulk is powerful enough and fast, agile and to small to be hit by Godzilla and would eventually pound Godzilla to death, correct?



Now you're just making stuff up. I never said Hulk was an intelligent fighter, just that he wasn't a dumb brute. Hulk can speak words (albeit minimal), follow orders, differentiate friend from foe, smart enough to bite off a warhead from a missile... are you telling me there is not intelligence behind these actions?



And no, I never said Hulk will punch or pound GZ to death. I'm of the opinion that he can pry open GZ's skin plates and crawl in and cause internal damage.


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Hulk isn't exactly stupid. He's smart enough to improvise metal shields and gloves in the IH movie, smart enough to differentiate friend from foe when he's not being manipulated.

As for GZ hitting fast moving targets, question: Were they as small as Hulk?


Look at Hulk and that Jet fighter he destroys. The Jet isn't multitudes bigger than him. It's a little bigger. Different is, it's moving multitudes faster than the Hulk can move

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Look at Hulk and that Jet fighter he destroys. The Jet isn't multitudes bigger than him. It's a little bigger. Different is, it's moving multitudes faster than the Hulk can move


It's also nowhere near as agile as he is nor as quick to change directions.


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The atomic breath isn't exactly a pencil thin laser.

Can you hit a fly with a flamethrower?


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