lawest9
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Billy has the physical advantages.
Jan 20th, 2017 04:03 AM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by leonidas
i actually have no issue with saying superman is above herc and thoir. by feats though, he is also well above marvel, and he is the one being discussed. i agree herc/thor and cm are all at ww level, as has been mostly born out in appearances. that said, my initial point stands--this would be enormously close using just strength. all powers in cm wins.
By feats Superman is well above anybody. But Cap is one of the few rivals he had in the past.
Thor/Hercules were always Wonder Woman level at best.
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Jan 20th, 2017 04:04 AM
JBL
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
By feats Superman is well above anybody. But Cap is one of the few rivals he had in the past.
Thor/Hercules were always Wonder Woman level at best.
WW level? Lol. Superman is well above anybody? Lol. They are ALL in the same strength class.
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Jan 20th, 2017 04:46 AM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by JBL
WW level? Lol. Superman is well above anybody? Lol. They are ALL in the same strength class.
Again, maybe in your dreams.
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Jan 20th, 2017 05:30 AM
zopzop
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Strength wise :
Superman
Thor = Hercules
Wonder Woman/Captain Marvel
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Jan 20th, 2017 05:36 AM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by h1a8
Captain Marvel often appears somewhat stronger and more durable than Hercules. Just on average.
For example, matching BA. BA is definitely stronger than Hercules through feats.
Through fts, Hercules is stronger than Adam.
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Jan 20th, 2017 05:47 AM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
By feats Superman is well above anybody. But Cap is one of the few rivals he had in the past.
Thor/Hercules were always Wonder Woman level at best.
No, he isn't.
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Jan 20th, 2017 05:48 AM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by zopzop
Strength wise :
Superman
Thor = Hercules
Wonder Woman/Captain Marvel
Haha, no. Diana is right up there and Cap is stronger than her.quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
No, he isn't.
Of course he is.quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Through fts, Hercules is stronger than Adam.
What feats?
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Jan 20th, 2017 05:54 AM
celeyhyga17
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
By feats Superman is well above anybody. But Cap is one of the few rivals he had in the past.
Thor/Hercules were always Wonder Woman level at best.
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Jan 20th, 2017 09:03 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Hes right.
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Jan 20th, 2017 11:56 AM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, no. Diana is right up there and Cap is stronger than her.
Of course he is.
What feats?
No, he really isn't.
Herc fts.
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Jan 20th, 2017 12:24 PM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
No, he really isn't.
Herc fts.
Again, what feats?quote: (post ) Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Hey, you want the drubbing again?
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Jan 20th, 2017 06:36 PM
carver9
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Again, what feats?
Hey, you want the drubbing again?
Let's start small. Holding together New York when it was split in half.
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Jan 20th, 2017 07:02 PM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Let's start small. Holding together New York when it was split in half.
I don't give a shit to such showings. I asked about strength feats from fights.
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Jan 21st, 2017 04:12 AM
zopzop
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't give a shit to such showings. I asked about strength feats from fights.
In carver's defense, Hercules has some great fights to his name. He's gone up against Thor and Hulk (multiple times) and they couldn't put him down. It was suggested that he could have stopped WWH himself if he actually fought back.
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Jan 21st, 2017 04:16 AM
celeyhyga17
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Again, what feats?
Hey, you want the drubbing again?
Alternate reality acting up again?
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Jan 21st, 2017 05:04 AM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by zopzop
In carver's defense, Hercules has some great fights to his name. He's gone up against Thor and Hulk (multiple times) and they couldn't put him down. It was suggested that he could have stopped WWH himself if he actually fought back.
Cap has beaten down a team of J'onn, Diana, Kyle, Wally and Warrior Guy Gardner. Name a similar showing from Hercules.quote: (post ) Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Alternate reality acting up again?
Nah, listen to Kris though. He knows his Thor/Hercules better than you do.
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Jan 21st, 2017 05:42 AM
Delta1938
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Cap has beaten down a team of J'onn, Diana, Kyle, Wally and Warrior Guy Gardner. Name a similar showing from Hercules.
The fight also started with Cap having his powers halved(I think it was halved, know for sure they were suppressed) and a broken arm(though his powers returned to normal I think early in the fight, and his arm healed when his powers were normal), and the others weren't mind controlled but bloodlusted from the effects of the environment.
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Jan 21st, 2017 05:55 AM
zopzop
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Cap has beaten down a team of J'onn, Diana, Kyle, Wally and Warrior Guy Gardner. Name a similar showing from Hercules.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Delta1938
the others weren't mind controlled but bloodlusted from the effects of the environment.
And that's the issue I have with that showing. They weren't fighting to their full potential. WW can just lasso him and command him to speak the magic word and the fight is instantly over.
Hell, Jonn could have assaulted his mind while WW mauled him and the fight would have been over without using lasso cheese.
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Jan 21st, 2017 06:09 AM
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Black Adam who is roughly equal to Billy also fought the JSA by himself. Adam and Billy are just on another level if using their full capabilities.
Jan 21st, 2017 06:55 AM
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