LotF:
1. Luke
2. Caedus
3. Kyp
4. Mara
5-6-7-8: Lumiya/Saba/Jaina/Lobi
FotJ:
(-Abeloth-)
(-Taalon-)
1. Luke
2-3-4: Hidden One - Kyp - Darish Vol
5. Jaina
LotF/FotJ
1. Luke
2. Caedus
3-4-5: Kyp - Hidden One - Darish Vol
6. Jaina
7. Mara/Workan
Anyway, that Jacen is 2nd doesn't means he's close to Luke in any way (I'd argue that he is somewhat close in 'sabers tho). That being said, yes, there sre only a handful of people that could do better against Luke than Jacen did - but he's in no way close to Luke, really. Jaina isn't that close to Jacen, either.
His best feat is chucking stuff at Luke, moving Luke back with Alter Environment and Lightning(though not really hurting him) and getting one-shotted by Luke with a single kick. It's hard to see him comparing so well with Kyp, Jaina or Mara, tbh.
This is pretty solid. Do you recall how easily Caedus beat Saba? He was unable to do that to Jaina, which would make me put Jaina above Saba. Jaina could reasonably be above Mara or Kyp too, imo. Kyp is more powerful in the force, and Mara has her vast experience as an assassin that could let her utilize an environment to be more tricky, but if I was told Jaina could take 6/10 fights against either of the two I wouldn't be surprised.
You could probably throw Krayt in there above Kyp and Jaina, perhaps Vol.
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- Darth Plagueis
"She may be small but she packs a punch and when shes in this mood...she goes for my danglers" - Oghren, Dragon Age
Sometime during LOTF. Some Jedi infiltrated Jacen's ship, and Saba encountered him. He fried her with lightening, iirc.
__________________ "You must begin by gaining power over yourself; then another; then a group, an order, a world, a species, a group of species... finally, the galaxy itself."
- Darth Plagueis
"She may be small but she packs a punch and when shes in this mood...she goes for my danglers" - Oghren, Dragon Age
I think you're missing the point, here. My point is that while Jacen is certainly the 2nd most powerful Jedi/force user of the era, that fact doesn't preclude him being far below Luke, and Jaina even moreso. Which leads me back to my original point: what have Jaina and Caedus done, in your opinion, that lead you to believe that they would destroy this team, (which is the implication I get when you say the strike team that Caedus essentially dominated would defeat Exar Kun, lol)?
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I don't think this fight is a mismatch. Yes, I think Katarn and the knights would take out Kun or Droma.
Neither of the sith could contend with Luke as well as Jacen did.
I do not have the book available to quote, sorry. That could have been the group that infiltrated Jacen's ship, but when Saba and Jacen encountered each other it was 1v1, and Jacen took Saba out quickly with force lightening. I may be off a little here, but that is what I think happened.
__________________ "You must begin by gaining power over yourself; then another; then a group, an order, a world, a species, a group of species... finally, the galaxy itself."
- Darth Plagueis
"She may be small but she packs a punch and when shes in this mood...she goes for my danglers" - Oghren, Dragon Age
What happened? I admitted I wasn't sure. Be useful for once.
__________________ "You must begin by gaining power over yourself; then another; then a group, an order, a world, a species, a group of species... finally, the galaxy itself."
- Darth Plagueis
"She may be small but she packs a punch and when shes in this mood...she goes for my danglers" - Oghren, Dragon Age
I'm here to share my opinion and see other people's opinions. This isn't a debate. You can win a debate and still be wrong. This is as pointless as you make it.
__________________ "You must begin by gaining power over yourself; then another; then a group, an order, a world, a species, a group of species... finally, the galaxy itself."
- Darth Plagueis
"She may be small but she packs a punch and when shes in this mood...she goes for my danglers" - Oghren, Dragon Age
You're good at making assumptions with erroneous reasoning. Interesting.
__________________ "You must begin by gaining power over yourself; then another; then a group, an order, a world, a species, a group of species... finally, the galaxy itself."
- Darth Plagueis
"She may be small but she packs a punch and when shes in this mood...she goes for my danglers" - Oghren, Dragon Age
Thanks for providing nothing except "wrong." You remind me of a current egomaniac, idiotic president. I'm not a debater, child; you may have noticed that if you could grasp the string of words I posted earlier.
__________________ "You must begin by gaining power over yourself; then another; then a group, an order, a world, a species, a group of species... finally, the galaxy itself."
- Darth Plagueis
"She may be small but she packs a punch and when shes in this mood...she goes for my danglers" - Oghren, Dragon Age
I really can't tell if your being serious here, but whatever the case, it's really funny. I don't think Skillz or I even know who you are. Did we have a run in with you a couple years ago that hurt your feelings?
Trump 2020, BTW.
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Aug 6th, 2017 02:20 PM
