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Psychotron
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Thor withstood the full force and heat of a star>> Clark died to a nuke

Thor is vastly more durable


Is this a joke? A nuke is thousands of times hotter than a star. A nuclear explosion is about 100,000,000° Celsius at its center where Superman and Doomsday were. In comparison the surface of a star like our Sun is only about 5,000° Celsius. Even the son's core isn't as hot as a nuke (15 million degrees vs 100 million).

Thor was dying without Stormbreaker anyway while Superman recovered under his own power.

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Are you joking? a neutron star gives of trillions of times more energy than a nuke and that doesn't even count the massive durability needed to be that close to a NS without becoming a pancake.

Plus, Superman didn't get better under his own power. he was healed via the exposure to the sun.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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If Wonder Woman can slice off an arm, Stormbeaker which can fly through a beam of all 6 infinity stones should be able to cut off limbs. Enough for a win before recovering? Not sure.


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supes didnt really die, he was just massively weakened, but we saw that when he did die, he needed planetary energy to revive him.

on the other hand death was inevitable for thor(he was already dying) until SB was ready.

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Is this a joke? A nuke is thousands of times hotter than a star. A nuclear explosion is about 100,000,000° Celsius at its center where Superman and Doomsday were. In comparison the surface of a star like our Sun is only about 5,000° Celsius. Even the son's core isn't as hot as a nuke (15 million degrees vs 100 million).

Thor was dying without Stormbreaker anyway while Superman recovered under his own power.



Nope. They are about that hot:

http://www.atomicarchive.com/Effects/effects7.shtml

But a neutron Star is much hotter:

https://www.quora.com/Is-a-neutron-...tar-its-made-of

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Are you joking? a neutron star gives of trillions of times more energy than a nuke and that doesn't even count the massive durability needed to be that close to a NS without becoming a pancake.

Plus, Superman didn't get better under his own power. he was healed via the exposure to the sun.


Thor didn’t get better under his own power either. He was healed via Stormbreaker. What’s the difference?

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The difference is that the nuke is a 1, whereas the NS is around 10,000.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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The heat isn't the matter, its the fact he survived a nuclear explosion.

Superman is already immune to our sun. He is immune to the as neutron star as well

It's a brighter than our own and therefore more nourishing than this solar systems sun.


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The fact is that Thor's feat >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superman's.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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The problem is it wasn’t the full force of the star it was a channeled amount of heat hit enough to melt Uru.

If a nuclear explosion at ground zero is 100,000,000 degrees. What’s th heat of a a small portion of the neutron stars heat, because it was channeled into a beam.


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*hot enough


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The movie specifically states that Thor is being hit with the full force of the star.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Hyperbole.


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Id be fine cancelling both feats out as both were dead/dying and needed somethi g to revive them.

Doomsday Tanked the Nuke and reentry from space.

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Hyperbole.



Prove it.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by WolvesofBabylon
Id be fine cancelling both feats out as both were dead/dying and needed somethi g to revive them.

Doomsday Tanked the Nuke and reentry from space.


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Id be fine cancelling both feats out as both were dead/dying and needed somethi g to revive them.

Doomsday Tanked the Nuke and reentry from space.


I'm not even sure why we're discussing what Superman can or cannot tank as he's not even in this thread.


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We’re talking a flyer that can attack from a distance via a cutting weapon strong enough to defeat a beam from a weapon capable of world plus level to sub universal power (IG) that returns on command vs a grounded non-flyer who was killed by a piercing weapon and whose only ranged attack (heat vision) will be completely inneffective against the flyer that has a teamate that can posibbly just swat away anything thrown their way in terms of debris.

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Nope. They are about that hot:

http://www.atomicarchive.com/Effects/effects7.shtml

But a neutron Star is much hotter:

https://www.quora.com/Is-a-neutron-...tar-its-made-of


Are you trying to prove me right? You own links support what I said about the nuke's heat. It also says the average heat of a neutron star's core is 999726.85° Celsius. According to my feeble math 100000000 is bigger than 999726.85.

Another two things that need to be said is that
A) I went back and rewatched the Nidavellir scenes in the movie. They never said it was a neutron star the just call it a star.
B)Even if it was a neutron star it was a "dying star". It had gone completely cold when Thor arrived. There's absoulutely no way it was at its peak temperature when it was re-ignited.

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Watch the scene where Thor and Rocket was talking en route to Nidevellir.

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