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h1a8
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Originally posted by Silent Master
In regards to the million tons, I do hope you're not talking about the key feat.

Common sense Silent.

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Common sense Silent.

Glad you're not stupid enough to keep trying to use that non-feat.

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But you do know about fiction inconsistency right?
1. Weaker characters can and have struck harder than stronger characters.
2. Characters have highs and lows. For example, a character can have a million ton feat (supergirl) and perform under 200 tons on average. So someone overpowering supergirl in one scene doesn't mean they too can lift a million tons. It's just means that they are stronger than her average and everything else is fiction inconsistency.

Therefore Stronger characters don't get weaker character's top feats. Thanos is stronger than average Hulk. Thanos can't leap like the Hulk because his legs aren't as strong. Striking and lifting, although positively correlated, are different. As others pointed out, an expert and experienced fighter can strike harder than someone who is both a lot stronger and has little to no fighting experience (a bodybuilder for example).

In other words, Thanos being stronger than the Hulk does not mean he can headbutt harder than WW. Visually WW headbutts harder.

Lastly you are giving Thanos strength due to the people he fought. Well WW headbutt Superman and rocked his head back. Given Superman's feats then that is a strength feat well beyond lifting a tank. So you should judge WW's strength off that and not other feats.

Prove that rocking Superman's head back is a strength feat well beyond that of lifting a tank

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Prove that rocking Superman's head back is a strength feat well beyond that of lifting a tank

Well I misspoke. I meant jarring Superman (him being affected to a significant degree).

Namek can lift well over a tank. Namek punched Superman in the face with a less jarring effect than with what WW did.

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Glad you're not stupid enough to keep trying to use that non-feat.

I'm using it to show fiction inconsistency, not to argue that Supergirl can lift a million tons in a forum fight. Keep up.

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Well I misspoke. I meant jarring Superman (him being affected to a significant degree).

Namek can lift well over a tank. Namek punched Superman in the face with a less jarring effect than with what WW did.

I'm using it to show fiction inconsistency, not to argue that Supergirl can lift a million tons in a forum fight. Keep up.

When did Namek punch Superman in the face with less effect than WW's headbutt?

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The same "singularity" that Lois tanked?

"Tanked" implies she did anything at all. Superman overpowered it. She was just in his arms when it happened.

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For which she recieved no damage. IE, she tanked it.

Oct 21st, 2019 10:53 AM

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For which she recieved no damage. IE, she tanked it.

Any why would she receive damage? They were being sucked it, Superman was pushing back.

Oct 21st, 2019 11:14 AM

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Did you seriously just ask why would someone receive damage from being near a singularity?

Oct 21st, 2019 11:19 AM

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That's what happened in the movie. Are you saying that it wasn't a singularity?

Oct 21st, 2019 12:18 PM

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I'm saying that it didn't injure Lois.

Oct 21st, 2019 12:25 PM

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So it wasn't a real singularity, Lois is somehow invulnerable in that scene, or it was simply an oversight?

Oct 21st, 2019 01:10 PM

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What do you call it then, smartass?

Floor? He's not in a building. He's on the ground and there was a crater there created by the WE.

Superman overpowered a singularity. So yeah.

You can call it as you wish, doesn't mean that's what it is.

Black hole>>>>>> Singularity

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1. Why isn't Diana's headbutt a strength feat? Thanos headbutt to Thor appeared weaker than Diana's. You are basing Thanos strength feats off characters he fought (since he has no lifting feats). If so then Why can't Diana's headbutt be based off Superman's durability feats?

2. Again you haven't shown that CM would effect Superman with a headbutt. Giving opinions that reasonable others don't agree with is not evidence.

3. Wrong! Superman is stronger than Hulk period. Superman is more durable too. Plus Thanos hit Hulk in many pressure sensitive areas.

Thor's durability and strength feats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Diana.

I honestly find it hilarious that you fail to realize that the MCU is in a another level of strength!

Hulk moving Surtur>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anything Superman has ever portrayed.

I suggest you hit the cinema sometime

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I love how superfans keep giving the terraforming machine feats. It failed to destroy a single building with one blow. It took hours for this thing to destroy anything

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When did Namek punch Superman in the face with less effect than WW's headbutt?

When Superman was on the ground Namek punched him square in the face and Superman was unbothered.

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When Superman was on the ground Namek punched him square in the face and Superman was unbothered.

I rewatched their fight, can't find the scene you're describing. Please post a link.

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You can call it as you wish, doesn't mean that's what it is.

Black hole>>>>>> Singularity

It's a gravity beam in function. Deal with it.

They're literally the same thing.

Oct 21st, 2019 03:56 PM

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It's a gravity beam in function. Deal with it.

They're literally the same thing.

You want to base your arguments on fallacies, that's up to you.

Carol stomps DCEU Superman, deal with it.

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You want to base your arguments on fallacies, that's up to you.

Carol stomps DCEU Superman, deal with it.

What's the fallacy, exactly? I don't care what you want to call it, the beam increased gravity on screen.

Not according to feats.

Oct 21st, 2019 04:48 PM

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Battleship>>>>Scientific vessle.

In other words, it's your burden to prove against logic.

Was the beam directly over the cars? No, which means it was an outcome of the Earth's gravity being modified by whatever sort of energy beam that was.

Does energy carry mass?

That�s so damn idiotic. Battleships doesn�t always mean more powerful than scientific vessels, especially when those so called scientific vessels warps space to travel the Universe.

Does magical gems really have the powers to wipe the Universe?

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