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Diesldude
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Any scans of these retcon punches that people keep referring to?

you’re also going to have to familiarize yourself with Doomsday Clock to get an idea of how powerful Dr.Manhattan is.

Dec 25th, 2020 03:54 PM

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you’re also going to have to familiarize yourself with Doomsday Clock to get an idea of how powerful Dr.Manhattan is.

I'm familiar with Doomsday Clock. Im just asking what these "retcon punches" are so i can make sure I know your perspective before i say anything.

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I'm familiar with Doomsday Clock. Im just asking what these "retcon punches" are so i can make sure I know your perspective before i say anything.

ok.

Dec 25th, 2020 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Any scans of these retcon punches that people keep referring to?

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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Not true at all, When SBP using his retcon punch for the first time is before the infinite crisis
https://ibb.co/4tFYY9v
And later, SBP did change the reality again in Teen Titans
https://imgur.com/d8iNkUK
https://imgur.com/jpilA3Q
https://imgur.com/oKjAfm4

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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Prime shattered/changed continuity during Infinite Crisis

And in this issue stated he shattered reality before
https://postlmg.cc/G8dD08jV

The source wall explosion tanking feat also comes from this issue
Prime mentioned the collapsing of the source wall and that ultimately freed him
https://ibb.co/tQbD1g9

Plus the latest Death Metal:
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Da...ll?id=179488#17

Dec 25th, 2020 04:57 PM

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The scans you posted, doesn't it have something to do with the room hes in versus him just punching the air ret retcon punching things?

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Originally posted by carver9
The scans you posted, doesn't it have something to do with the room hes in versus him just punching the air ret retcon punching things?

Lol, SBP punches Darkest Knight and the same effect shows
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Da...ll?id=179488#19
Same case when he punches a corrupted version of Superman whose history gets retconned/changed by his punches
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Da...ll?id=179488#17
So put it in simple:No, His retcon punches/reality warping ability doesn't require any specific environments. All he needs to do is punching

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Dec 25th, 2020 05:52 PM

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The scans you posted, doesn't it have something to do with the room hes in versus him just punching the air ret retcon punching things?

Superboy didn't punch the air, he punched the crystal walls surrounding his prison.

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SBP does seem to need a 'target' of sorts to effect those kind of changes -- specifically one that is connected to the multiverse in some esoteric way. In the first instance the target was the walls of the Limbo realm, in the second instance the target was the wall/border of the Phantom Zone, in the third instance the target was the Darkest Night and/or his lackeys.

To date, Prime hasn't just thrown his fists into thin air and altered the multiverse.

That said, Prime did somehow did manage to bust from the 3rd dimension into the 5th dimension to kidnap Mxy during Countdown:
https://ibb.co/Brsv1xt
...But he also had the Guardian amp at the time, and that action didn't have any adverse effects on the rest of creation.

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Yeah, To be clarified. SBP has to hit something to change reality. But I don't see this is a problem when he is in a forum fight. I mean he has opponents/targets to punch. And in the latest Death Metal, SBP changed a corrupted Superman's history just by punching him.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Da...ll?id=179488#17

Dec 25th, 2020 06:28 PM

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It would probably go like this.

https://ibb.co/nD1ZsN6

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Oof.

Looks like Eternity, in character, prefers to throw down in fisticuffs.

Not a good tactic against SBP.

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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, SBP punches Darkest Knight and the same effect shows
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Da...ll?id=179488#19
Same case when he punches a corrupted version of Superman whose history gets retconned/changed by his punches
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Da...ll?id=179488#17
So put it in simple:No, His retcon punches/reality warping ability doesn't require any specific environments. All he needs to do is punching

I dont think Superboy Prime truly fought Darkest Knight. Too much context and the other showing you posted had him in a room punching things that altered reality. He tried to get old Superman to do the same thing so that his wife could come back.

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What exactly is SP fighting? An M-Body?

https://ibb.co/nD1ZsN6

Also, Has SBP done any more than Genis-vell?

Dec 25th, 2020 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by carver9
I dont think Superboy Prime truly fought Darkest Knight. Too much context and the other showing you posted had him in a room punching things that altered reality. He tried to get old Superman to do the same thing so that his wife could come back.

Except when earth-2 Superman( Kal-L) punching, even breaking the crystal walls that SBP punched. But still didn't have same effect like SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/In...e-1?id=39427#26
And Alexander even stated SBP as his architect of reality, Not Kal-L
So your argument is moot since Alexander never hopes Kal-L do the same thing that SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/In...ll?id=107443#35
Also even lets assume that the fight between SBP and Darkest knight was some illusion that created by DN. Before fighting DN, SBP still managed to change a history of corrupted Superman by punching him.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Da...ll?id=179488#17

Last edited by qwertyuiop1998 on Dec 25th, 2020 at 08:51 PM

Dec 25th, 2020 08:43 PM

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qwerty been schooling carver left and right this year thumb up

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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except when earth-2 Superman( Kal-L) punching, even breaking the crystal walls that SBP punched. But still didn't have same effect like SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/In...e-1?id=39427#26
And Alexander even stated SBP as his architect of reality, Not Kal-L
So your argument is moot since Alexander never hopes Kal-L do the same thing that SBP did.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/In...ll?id=107443#35
Also even lets assume that the fight between SBP and Darkest knight was some illusion that created by DN. Before fighting DN, SBP still managed to change a history of corrupted Superman by punching him.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Da...ll?id=179488#17

What is that Superboy Prime is looking at on the wall? I see images. What are those images on the wall?

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Originally posted by carver9
What is that Superboy Prime is looking at on the wall? I see images. What are those images on the wall?

It was a pocket dimension that they can see present and past events.

Dec 25th, 2020 09:08 PM

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qwerty been schooling carver left and right this year

I’m reporting him for child abuse.

Dec 25th, 2020 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by Diesldude
you’re also going to have to familiarize yourself with Doomsday Clock to get an idea of how powerful Dr.Manhattan is.

What are Batman Who Laughs feats? I've been told repeatedly that we don't share feats.

Dec 25th, 2020 09:23 PM

Diesldude
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Originally posted by TheHulkster
What are Batman Who Laughs feats? I've been told repeatedly that we don't share feats.

which feats of Dr. Manhattan did I give to TBWLs?

Dec 25th, 2020 09:32 PM

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