I understand that, but molecule man and beyonder are two very powerful beings that are in full control of their powers, that seemed like a focused blast that was only directed at the beyonder, the beyonder himself felt the full force of that blast that's why he knew what that blast could have destroyed. By the room, the city,and not even that Galaxy being affected shows that that blast was only directed at the beyonder who felt the full brunt of that attack. The collateral damage was given by the beyonder who knew how powerful that Blast was.
And this perfectly conveys the fact that collateral damage in and of itself(or lack thereof) isn't the end-all/be-all measuring stick when it comes to gauging the strength or potency behind an attack... Especially when a high-end matter/reality manipulator is the one projecting it.
Owen hits Beyonder with a blast that could have wiped out several billion entire dimensions, yet caused no damage at all to the room they were standing in. Despite the blast itself containing massive attack potency, there was literally no collateral damage whatsoever.
Which means that if it wasn't concentrated, it would have destroyed billions of dimensions. Perpetua taxed herself destroying a single universe and had to recharge afterwards. Theres a huge power difference here. Then, planets were damaging her.
I'm not discussing Perpetua's standing relative to the others. I am just helping explain why collateral damage isn't always an accurate way of approximating the power of an attack.
As the Owen/Beyonder and Galactus/Thanos scenes illustrate: a lack of collateral damage resulting from an attack doesn't automatically mean said attack wasn't immensely powerful.
Dc has infinite multiverses, read the scans man its right there on the fcking panel, it’s been posted 20 times. this is what happens when you don’t read dc. You don’t know what you are talking about. https://ibb.co/82T7s3k https://ibb.co/6wKB30J
Chronicler has a book of trillion multiverses coming to an end. Why do you think chronicler has access to info of all the multiverses? Why can’t there be others like him to also have access to different multiverses?
How stupid is this comment, dc has an omniverse, everything within this omniverse is part of dc, whether is dc comics, cartoon, tv show, movies etc
This tity titans clip explain dc perfectly, it flows through all medium, there is no rules and boundaries to this game
Blah blah blah, marvel dimensions are only geometric universes
Dc on the other hand define their upper dimension infinitely dwarfs their lower ones. Where higher dimension beings view the previous one as mere fictions. (please log in to view the image)
When it comes to the actual spatio-temporal dimensions and their extensions (imagination and unimagination) the 6th is the highest.
How many times do I have to say this, they are planes of existences, dc has 6 level planes of existences, marvel only has three
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wildstorm alone which is only part of dc multiverse has 198833 dimensional space
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anything sphere of the gods and above are platonic archetypal realms
Tell me, why when marvel mention infinite dimensions, it counts
But when dc does it, it does not count? (please log in to view the image) (please log in to view the image) (please log in to view the image)
Why so bias? Did they specify marvel’s dimension is temporal-spatial, or is it simply geometrical?
Pre-retcon Beyonder is in concept very similar to the Overvoid. They're both the incarnation of the totality outside the multiverse, and they were both intrigued by the Multiverse. The difference is that the Overvoid has its degrees of freedom limited to six dimensions.
This is so retarded, overvoid is the paper where comics draw on, it was literally stated overvoid is outside of sixth dimension, why would it’s degrees of freedom limited to six dimensions.
Marvel is 3-d, accept it and move on, beyond realm only view the marvel universe/multiverse as droplet of water, which coincide with the size of sphere of gods or nil, unless you can prove it in size beyond realm is bigger than nil (which view the 3-d dc multiverse as germ world), concede.
give me evidence of marvel dimensions are planes of existence each infinitely dwarf the previous ones, marvel has no ****ing definition of how their dimensions operate. It’s literally just universes
Because that’s the only way dimension discussion has any value
I don’t think you understand, third dimension universes are size of bubbles on the planet of new genesis. YOU ARE NOT GRASPING ANY SCALE.
Based on your interpretation of comics, which is wrong.
Yeah, this is how I've always seen it. Where DC's dimensional scaling is concerned, it's less about the numerical value of the dimension, and more about what that dimension represents within continuity.
So just because Marvel defined the Beyond Realm as infini-dimensional back in the SWII days, that doesn't mean it scales infinitely beyond the 4th, 5th, or 6th dimensions in DC. Two different companies; two vastly different cosmologies.
In the Beyonder vs Molecule Man instance, the Beyonder appears to have absorbed the force of the blast. That's the only way to make sense of the scene.
Most Batman related characters have bland designs and only get the past due to Nostalgia of Batman himself. They look shitty, act shitty and exist solely for wanking
I might be forgetting a couple of designs but the ones that stand out in quality are Two-Face and Joker and while they look good those guys are barely characters.
I can't see how that knowledge gives anyone the go ahead to claim that the characters are more or less powerful than other near omnipotent characters. I can't see Superboy doing that to the Living Tribunal who could just snap his fingers and BFR Superboy Prime to a null dimension with no walls in sight. Just blank space.
All of the scans that Mr. Mind used can not explain away the sad performance that the Batman Who Laughs had against Superboy Prime. I mean, why did that even ever turn into a fist fight? It was pretty underwhelming to say the least. Snyder isn't very good, and the only redeeming quality backing the tepid plot was the artwork.
I'm far from convinced that Superboy Prime would ever be able to defeat TOAA, IG Thanos, Mxy, Doctor M, Beyonder, or even an adult Franklin Richards. However he beat the mess out of BWL which lowered his stock significantly.
I can give you plenty of example where near omnipotent beings make mistakes or do not utilize their powers to the full extent. It just how comics works. It’s why beings like LT despite being near omniscient won’t interfere but later into the story, they are “forced” to. It’s rather silly but it happens every time.
DC most definitely abuses this more because they put their heroes (esp Superman) on a pedestal. It’s the same reason DK supposedly won’t even blink the heroes out of existence (though I actually think he can’t because he is a nightmare, if they die, he dies)
That said, you shouldn’t just disregard the showings. Prime has a history of beating beings that are strong. Let’s not forget when he was a Superman Prime, a monitor was still somewhat scared of him, Mxy was also scared of him, he survived a universal explosion point blanks. He was definitely a universal being with a limited amp.
Him fighting (he still lost) DK isn’t “that” far fetched considering some of his other high end feats
From the battle between perpetua and Dk, it looks like they were shoving planets in each other’s face but the battle was in every reality and dimension.
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