Imagine arguing Invincible characters dying in the sun as a bad feat when Hercules gets third degree burns from Sauron's flames and Mangog dies in the sun.
Because it was published nearly a decade before we saw BB go all-out against Thragg.
Pretty much every noteworthy character from the Invincible-verse leveled up massively over the years(as evident by the strength ratings many of them were given back then, lol.)
Anyone check out the latest X-Force comic? Namor's pretty badass these days. I mean he has the power to shoot off lightning with his trident, and as we know he is also a water manipulator. Imagine what he could do with lightning and water? You guys should check out how much hotter lightning is in comparison to the sun.
But that's really how things are in the different universes. Kirkman does not give 2 sh!ts about the status quo - if Battle Beast dies, he dies. OTOH, Namor and Herc still have to interact with the general Marvel universe, so they can't be written too highly.
Of course, that's just PIS - but if Marvel writers weren't constrained by continuity, I reckon fights in Marvel (and DC etc) would be just as gory.
Well, I was fresh off of reading Invincible and couldn't get past all the times a character would get goried by a another that should be roughly on his same level and etc and the lack of clearly defined feats.
Now I scale all of the post war Viltrumite off of the planet feat, which even with context wouldn't be too out of place for upper end low-heralds. And Thragg/Allen/EoS Mark are vastly above those levels.
Hope they show the Allen/Mark eos fight proper. The way they did it in comic leaves too many questions (Like whether Mark had help, or whether Allen got weaker with age, or why they were in formal wear.. Allen had a tux didn't he?)
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Lol... Invincible characters are not squishy. The writer js using common sense. Fighting your superior results in your head getting lopped off. Marvel and DC comics should be like this. Juggernaut fighting Colossus, Juggernaut should be able to punch a hole clean through him. Prime fighting Superboy, Prime should be able to easily rip him apart. Just because OMNI man hurt Mark doesn't mean Spiderman could replicate that showing.
Given the context, I'd say it was absolutely intended to be a proper fight.
All the good deeds that Mark and his new Viltrumite Ascendancy were preforming across the universe was rendering Allen's Coalition of Planets completely moot... Mark was essentially doing such a good job protecting the universe that its citizens no longer saw a need for the CoP to even exist. So their 'fight' was basically Allen trying to force Mark to stop being such an effective protector, so the Coalition didn't outright collapse... And the heavy implication is that Mark throttled Allen handily.
The only real "?" is if Allen had inextricably weakened by that point(their fight took place some 500 years in the future, after all.) However, we don't really have any legitimate reason to assume he was weaker... But we DO know that Mark had undoubtedly become much stronger(that's how Viltrumite genealogy works.) So EoS Mark being >> Allen makes perfect sense, imo, given that he was already approaching Thragg-level centuries earlier. /shrug
Allen did look pretty bad, what with the facial cracks.
Was pretty hard seeing what Allen came to, he used to be an awesome character. Poor guy never should have been leader, he sucked at it.
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Jan 23rd, 2021 07:56 PM
Bluewaterrider: "I'm surprised that a Skyfather like Zeus defeated Hulk when Zeus' Top-Tier son Hercules has lost to Hulk."
