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I enjoyed more marvel books

both companies main event crossovers suck though


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I enjoyed more marvel books


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If you had to recommend one current dc title to prove your case and one current marvel title which titles would you choose? The case: prove your company is the better story teller of course. Though you could choose a terrible title to support the other side I guess. Lol


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I don't think theres any current title that's really worth reading

but at least hickman's x-men is decent, and I enjoyed king in black

there is not a sinlge dc title that's not absolute shit right now, future state is a disaster of highest proportion.


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If you had to recommend one current dc title to prove your case and one current marvel title which titles would you choose? The case: prove your company is the better story teller of course. Though you could choose a terrible title to support the other side I guess. Lol


Hickman (House of X/Powers of X, dawn/reign of X, X-men and New Mutants)

Also, I really like Ewing has been doing on his S.W.O.R.D. (only #2 out) Book as he's been taking a deep deep dive into X-men history and lore and pulling out all the stops for characters to use. The X-men are BY FAR the most diverse group of individuals in all of comics when it comes to powers and relationships and bonds and Ewing is using that to his full advantage to create what is so far the beginning of something amazing.

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Hellblazer and The Last God (as Stoic said) are good from DC, and current.

Marvel has Sword, and KiB.


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Are we just using mainstream super heroes? If we use wildstorm and Vertigo (Hellblazer, Swamp Thing, Doom Patrol), on top of Milestone and the Hannah Barbara line, Dc has pumped out more quality runs, imo. They usually sweep the Eisners year after year for a reason.

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i agree with alberto about the direction of the x-books. i think it's moving in a pretty awesome direction. i'll take a look at last god and hellblazer--haven't checked in on hellblazer in a long while.


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i agree with alberto about the direction of the x-books. i think it's moving in a pretty awesome direction. i'll take a look at last god and hellblazer--haven't checked in on hellblazer in a long while.


👍 The DC books on the other hand seem to follow that same old tired crisis formula of throwing everything at the story and hoping part of it entertains you enough that you don't pay attention to the fact that it's a generic story with a throwaway villain that they will try to keep relevant by placing him in a few jobber level cameos(antimonitior for example).

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laughing out loud for a full pledged dc swallower like yourself to accept like the majority that it will never be anywhere close to marvel in terms of story, quality, or plot warms my heart.
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His New Avengers mainly. I liked Mighty too, even if it was just conventional. Dark Avengers, too. I think his HoM was good, too [don't misunderstand me - I get the character assassination, but still]

I think his relaunch with Romita Jr. was pretty bad. Then Avengers Assemble was him just going through the motions.


I, like many people, enjoyed the art in Mighty. I even tolerated his weird hateboner for Hank Pym. The book just... never really went anywhere.

Dark Avengers wasn't bad, I agree.

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Bendis can write when he wants to.

It's just that he doesn't plan things carefully and tends to lose interest a lot... then his comics quickly become a talking heads show with cringey dialogue.

Mighty series was good before the Secret Invasion tie-ins, imho.

New Avengers issues were like butter spread on too much bread.

Dark Avengers was f*cking sweet before Fraction came in with his completely unnecessary Utopia crossover, which was a waste of time both story- and action-wise.


When he's not trying to be a poor man's Joss Whedon, he's capable of good things, yeah.


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Also, Leah Williams: She's currently heading up the X-factor Book and so far everything Leah has been doing has been great. She expanded "The Mojoverse" to be an entire universe under the control of Mojo and not one planet, and has been doing some great things with individual characters (rachels cronoskimming) she's been giving Polaris an actual personality and much needed character development as well as expanding on what Eye-boy is capable of which I absolutely love, shes EXTREMELY talented at working on characters and developing team dynamics (which is a reoccurring theme through most of the X-men books)

We're in a thread about quality, and you suggest Leah Williams X-Factor. Reported.

Leah seems nice, and I understand writing is hard, but X-Factor is pretty bad. The romance reads like a 13 year old's fanfiction. The comedy is very laugh box, corny sitcom style. And she's confusing a lack of plot for character development. We were promised a cool little procedural, and got a pretty uninspired slice-of-life story instead. I feel like this is a consistent problem with this recent wave of web-comic writers(I know Leah has a different background) being hired to work for the bigger companies. They insist on writing this way, but are generally bad at it. Or at least pick the wrong characters for it.

And wtf is with this forced Daken/Aurora romance? confused And she's openly admitted to disliking Polaris, and I strongly suspect having Polaris on the team was out of her control. She hasn't really done much for her other than a random friendship with Daken. And speaking of Daken, she picked him so the team could have a "f ucky thot enforcer." I get she was making a joke, but it really bleeds into her depiction of him. This has to be the worse Daken ever tbh. Hell, Rachel is her favorite character, and Rachel has zero narrative arcs here. She just sits around with ****ing Amazing Baby, the worse thing ever introduced in any work of fiction. I hope it gets its face ripped off and dies. That one wasn't Leah's fault, but holy hell I could live without it.

It's a shame really, because I think Leah does some things well. Despite all the hate it seems like I'm throwing, I think Leah handles the actual procedural and "X-Factor-y" moments comparatively well. She also has decent plots, but she just focuses on it so very little that the book falls flat. We get like 5 panels of actual X-Factor stuff, and entire issues of the squad sitting on a staircase going "Oh no she didn't! *finger snap*" for some moment barely worthy of 90's sitcom dialogue.

It could work with certain writers I guess, but not here.
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Bendis can write when he wants to.

It's just that he doesn't plan things carefully and tends to lose interest a lot... then his comics quickly become a talking heads show with cringey dialogue.

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Bendis Daredevil is quite good.

Even in his work on X-Men, he does write a solid Shadowcat and Iceman. But then you turn the page....and see everyone else going full cringe. blink It's really jarring.

There was actually an issue back during the Teen Jean era, where Bendis surprised me. No cringe. No one talked too much trying to force a botched joke. Solid and organic emotional beats. It made me wonder why he can't always write like that? Is he just spread too thin?

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We're in a thread about quality, and you suggest Leah Williams X-Factor. Reported.

Leah seems nice, and I understand writing is hard, but X-Factor is pretty bad. The romance reads like a 13 year old's fanfiction. The comedy is very laugh box, corny sitcom style. And she's confusing a lack of plot for character development. We were promised a cool little procedural, and got a pretty uninspired slice-of-life story instead. I feel like this is a consistent problem with this recent wave of web-comic writers(I know Leah has a different background) being hired to work for the bigger companies. They insist on writing this way, but are generally bad at it. Or at least pick the wrong characters for it.

And wtf is with this forced Daken/Aurora romance? confused And she's openly admitted to disliking Polaris, and I strongly suspect having Polaris on the team was out of her control. She hasn't really done much for her other than a random friendship with Daken. And speaking of Daken, she picked him so the team could have a "f ucky thot enforcer." I get she was making a joke, but it really bleeds into her depiction of him. This has to be the worse Daken ever tbh. Hell, Rachel is her favorite character, and Rachel has zero narrative arcs here. She just sits around with ****ing Amazing Baby, the worse thing ever introduced in any work of fiction. I hope it gets its face ripped off and dies. That one wasn't Leah's fault, but holy hell I could live without it.

It's a shame really, because I think Leah does some things well. Despite all the hate it seems like I'm throwing, I think Leah handles the actual procedural and "X-Factor-y" moments comparatively well. She also has decent plots, but she just focuses on it so very little that the book falls flat. We get like 5 panels of actual X-Factor stuff, and entire issues of the squad sitting on a staircase going "Oh no she didn't! *finger snap*" for some moment barely worthy of 90's sitcom dialogue.

It could work with certain writers I guess, but not here.

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Bendis Daredevil is quite good.

Even in his work on X-Men, he does write a solid Shadowcat and Iceman. But then you turn the page....and see everyone else going full cringe. blink It's really jarring.

There was actually an issue back during the Teen Jean era, where Bendis surprised me. No cringe. No one talked too much trying to force a botched joke. Solid and organic emotional beats. It made me wonder why he can't always write like that? Is he just spread too thin?


She is great on character development, and there is a plot brewing, they are going back to an unfinished storyline where a death goddess possessed Siryn, that first mojoworld arc was pretty decent as well, last weeks X-factor to me was a filler issue, filler issues for the most part are not the best but as far as fillers go to me having followed X-men for most of my comic book career was great.
I understand what your saying sort of like that part where they showed the message orbs that all represented cases of missing mutants and not getting to that quick enough, I think they will but I also think X-factor is trying to re-establish itself after being interrupted by X of Swords.
I think she is firmly setting up characters of what she wants to do (Eye-boy, Rachel, Northstar etc) and then they will go and do it, at the moment I do agree that for an investigative team they are doing to much sitting around but it won't last and we will see more in the coming handful of issues.

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