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h1a8
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Originally posted by FrothByte
Look H1, everyone can see what you're doing here. You're trying to distract and worm your way out of actually having to provide feats.

You know the golden rule in the MvF, you back up your arguments with feats, not with made-up mental gymnastics.

If you want to claim that Zod or WW have better cut/puncture resistance than Thor then you actually need to provide feats of them doing so. It's that simple. Until you can actually back yourself up with feats, you're not worth talking to.
Thor has been cut everytime. He can not be above them in cutting resistance.


Zod has better blunt force feats than Thor. He can take more powerful punches without bleeding. Thor can possibly take heat better (assuming Zod =/= Superman).

Zod is bulletproof of the highest level. Thor isn't (no feats to back it up by your logic).

There is no way Thor is more durable than Zod. You are a bias troll Thorbag for saying otherwise.


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Originally posted by h1a8
Thor has been cut everytime. He can not be above them in cutting resistance.



Of course he can. Just because he's been cut (as has Superman and Wonder Woman), doesn't mean they could resist what he did or that he could resist what they did.

Have to compare like for like.


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Originally posted by h1a8
Zod has better blunt force feats than Thor. He can take more powerful punches without bleeding.


Why? Because he took punches from Superman? Thor has taken hits from Hulk, Hela, and Thanos without bleeding.


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Originally posted by h1a8
Thor can possibly take heat better (assuming Zod =/= Superman).



He certainly has superior heat resistance feats to them. Far far superior. Which of course is a massive durability feat even IF you want to say he just took the Heat and not the full force (for no other reason but that you don't like Thor having that feat).



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Originally posted by h1a8
Zod is bulletproof of the highest level. Thor isn't (no feats to back it up by your logic).



Aside from him being in the line of fire of Ultrons quinjet fire (everyone else in the line of fire either jumped out of the way or died), he actually has a far superior feat of surviving ( in tact) the starship explosion, with him at the centre of the explosion.


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Originally posted by h1a8
There is no way Thor is more durable than Zod. You are a bias troll Thorbag for saying otherwise.



Just stating that (on top of insults) doesn't make it true.

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course he can. Just because he's been cut (as has Superman and Wonder Woman), doesn't mean they could resist what he did or that he could resist what they did.

Have to compare like for like.


He's been cut by random knives. Ran from bullets, etc.

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Why? Because he took punches from Superman? Thor has taken hits from Hulk, Hela, and Thanos without bleeding.

No because Superman struck Zod with more force than Thanos, Hela, or Hulk struck Thor. Only Thor bleed and Zod was perfectly fine.
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He certainly has superior heat resistance feats to them. Far far superior. Which of course is a massive durability feat even IF you want to say he just took the Heat and not the full force (for no other reason but that you don't like Thor having that feat).
I disagree. The nuke feat is comparable.
It takes heat to melt metal. Stars are known for heat. The beam was mostly heat with little force on it (Thor was pushed with a small acceleration). Writer's intent.
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Aside from him being in the line of fire of Ultrons quinjet fire (everyone else in the line of fire either jumped out of the way or died), he actually has a far superior feat of surviving ( in tact) the starship explosion, with him at the centre of the explosion.

Thor was never shown hit with bullets. He ran from them in avengers. A starship explosion is weak sauce in relation to these level of characters. Being aircraft bullet proof is greater.

Note: That wasn't a traditional explosion where the explosion originated at a single point. The whole ship was charged with energy (all the walls, etc) and exploded mostly outwards. So Thor didn't experience the brunt of the force (force was spread out) and yet was still koed.
Zod or Superman would have barely felt it. The nuke explosion was far more powerful.
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Just stating that (on top of insults) doesn't make it true.


No insults. But what i said is true nonetheless.


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When has Thor ever been cut by random knives?


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Originally posted by h1a8
He's been cut by random knives. Ran from bullets, etc.



You mean "random" Alien/Asgardian knives.

Him avoiding bullets not having much of an idea about the effectiveness of Earthly weapons means little.

Him standing in the line of fire having spent much more time on Earth, and being aware of the Quinjet's capabilities, means a lot more.


What also means a lot more is going toe to toe with Hulk (almost beating him in h2h), and his body being fully intact in the middle of a huge starship exploding. The debris alone would hit with far more piercing damage than any bullet.

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Originally posted by h1a8
No because Superman struck Zod with more force than Thanos, Hela, or Hulk struck Thor. Only Thor bleed and Zod was perfectly fine.


You're making that up about Superman's striking power as of MOS. He has nothing (at that point) next to a Leviathan crushing punch, which Thor let himself get hit by flat in the nose while trying to reason with Hulk.

So moot comparison on your end.



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Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree. The nuke feat is comparable.


The nuclear bomb melted his skin off. I wouldn't call that taking it.

Thor took the might of the Star for an extended period before it KO'd him. It didn't melt his skin off.


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Stars are known for heat.



https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...sh=4d55676a460b

"In terms of raw energy output, nothing on our world compares to our Sun."


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Originally posted by h1a8
The beam was mostly heat with little force on it (Thor was pushed with a small acceleration). Writer's intent.



The writer made his intent very very clear with the dialogue. You simply don't like the feat being a Thor feat.



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Originally posted by h1a8
Thor was never shown hit with bullets. He ran from them in avengers. A starship explosion is weak sauce in relation to these level of characters. Being aircraft bullet proof is greater.



By your own logic he stood in the line of fire in AOU because he knows he can take it now. You've just defeated yourself. Well done.

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Originally posted by h1a8
Note: That wasn't a traditional explosion where the explosion originated at a single point. The whole ship was charged with energy (all the walls, etc) and exploded mostly outwards. So Thor didn't experience the brunt of the force (force was spread out) and yet was still koed.
Zod or Superman would have barely felt it. The nuke explosion was far more powerful.




Wow you will literally make up any crap you like to downplay Thor's feats.

He was in the ship when it exploded. Obviously the ship exploded with him in the middle of it. Jeez.

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Originally posted by h1a8
The force was weak. Thor's acceleration was small.
Radiation is not force. It heats things up.

Full force of star = full heat of star
Heat (not force) used to melt the metal per writer's intent.

Figurative language. Common sense.

Like i said. Thor can still be punched in the face and damaged. He can still be stabbed. Blunt force and stabbing force has nothing to do that feat.



Sorry, your trolling doesn't get to overwrite the writers of the film.

"You understand, boy, you're about to take the full force of a star. It'll kill you." -Etri

Thor withstood the full force of a star for several minutes. What happened.


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Originally posted by Darth Thor
You mean "random" Alien/Asgardian knives.

Him avoiding bullets not having much of an idea about the effectiveness of Earthly weapons means little.

Him standing in the line of fire having spent much more time on Earth, and being aware of the Quinjet's capabilities, means a lot more.
Alien knives with writer's no mention of them being more special = random knives. The onus is always on to prove special attributes.

We go by writer's intent, not making up stuff. Thor ran from the bullets because he wasn't bullet proof of that level. That was writer's intent.
Thor didn't run the other time because there was no where to go and he was in the middle of battle.

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What also means a lot more is going toe to toe with Hulk (almost beating him in h2h), and his body being fully intact in the middle of a huge starship exploding. The debris alone would hit with far more piercing damage than any bullet.
Again, Superman hit Zod far harder than any hit that caused Thor to bleed. I went over the explosion and why it was weak. Ignoring what i said isn't a rebuttal.
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You're making that up about Superman's striking power as of MOS. He has nothing (at that point) next to a Leviathan crushing punch, which Thor let himself get hit by flat in the nose while trying to reason with Hulk.
The leviathan punch didn't slow the leviathan more than 10%. The majority of the slowdown was through bracing and pushing against it. The original punch did almost nothing in terms of altering the momentum. Punch was less than 50 tons of force easily. And the leviathan punch is irrelevant due to we know the force Thor was hit merely by his acceleration.
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So moot comparison on your end.





The nuclear bomb melted his skin off. I wouldn't call that taking it.

Thor took the might of the Star for an extended period before it KO'd him. It didn't melt his skin off.

There was 0 skin melted off. Actually there was no damage. Just drained of energy.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...sh=4d55676a460b

"In terms of raw energy output, nothing on our world compares to our Sun."

Keep reading. It states that we got the sun beat in temperature. You are confusing the amount of water as the temperature of the water. A nuclear bomb is more than 100x hotter than a neutron star. I can easily be fire hosed with 30 degree Celsius water than be lightly sprinkled with 3000 degree liquid. Plus the bomb would produce great pressures at point blank range.

A stars total output is separated over its entire surface. The amount of radiation Flux from someone of Thor's size in comparison to the entire size of the star is microscopic.
Although we see the star still emitting energy in all directions, temperature can not be added in this way. If someone shine 1000 flashlights on you vs 1 flashlight then you wouldn't feel 1000x hotter.

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The writer made his intent very very clear with the dialogue. You simply don't like the feat being a Thor feat.


Yes he did. Figurative language. If you disagree then the full force of the star was weak as shit since it pushed Thor weakly through space. Stars emit little force. The large force is their force of gravity, which is inward.
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By your own logic he stood in the line of fire in AOU because he knows he can take it now. You've just defeated yourself. Well done.



That's not the case. Think more like a soldier in war in the middle of a battle field with no immediate cover. Plus those bullets are wayyyy weaker than the other bullets
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Wow you will literally make up any crap you like to downplay Thor's feats.

He was in the ship when it exploded. Obviously the ship exploded with him in the middle of it. Jeez.


No, the walls are charged. He exhibited little to no force since the explosion originated in the walls and went outward. No shrapnel ever traveled through the center as, seen.


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Sorry, your trolling doesn't get to overwrite the writers of the film.

"You understand, boy, you're about to take the full force of a star. It'll kill you." -Etri

Thor withstood the full force of a star for several minutes. What happened.


You are the one trolling here. All the evidence points to Figurative language.

Force = push or pull by definition. Forces causes objects of mass to accelerate.

Force = energy, temperature, etc is more of a Figurative definition.

1. Heat melts metal and stars are known for heat to the general audience. 1 + 1= 2
2. Stars only forces are gravity and magnetic. Neither of whom push outward radially. So full force of a star can literally mean the force the star pushed Thor with (small amount). .


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Zod has never taken on a nuke.


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Originally posted by h1a8
You are the one trolling here. All the evidence points to Figurative language.

Force = push or pull by definition. Forces causes objects of mass to accelerate.

Force = energy, temperature, etc is more of a Figurative definition.

1. Heat melts metal and stars are known for heat to the general audience. 1 + 1= 2
2. Stars only forces are gravity and magnetic. Neither of whom push outward radially. So full force of a star can literally mean the force the star pushed Thor with (small amount). .


Etri wasn't speaking figuratively, he was literal, he knows exactly what is going on in his own forge and he was correct.

"You understand, boy, you're about to take the full force of a star. It'll kill you." -Etri


The writers > your baseless claims.


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Alien knives with writer's no mention of them being more special = random knives. The onus is always on to prove special attributes.


You want him to prove that knives used by a highly advanced alien race with superpowers are somehow special?


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Can't believe how H1 got in your head S and M. You come back because he makes you. laughing out loud

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You want him to prove that knives used by a highly advanced alien race with superpowers are somehow special?


Yup. That's how fiction works. Alien races (advanced ones) can have random knives and blades. Look at the Klingons and Krytonians.
You can't use circular reasoning as proof.
If a character was established as bulletproof to the highest degree or resisted conventional blades then the knives would be proven to not be random.


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Etri wasn't speaking figuratively, he was literal, he knows exactly what is going on in his own forge and he was correct.

"You understand, boy, you're about to take the full force of a star. It'll kill you." -Etri


The writers > your baseless claims.

Saying he wasn't speaking figuratively doesn't make it true. Learn to debate.


Only a bias idiot can't see clearly that Thor experienced a beam of heated radiation, which purpose was to MELT the metal.. Thor was pushed with a relatively small amount of force because his acceleration was small. Etri wasn't talking about that push as the force. That would be stupid. He was obviously talking about the heat.

I just proved that he wasn't speaking figuratively. Ignoring what I said is not a rebuttal.

Your argument: "There is no such as figurative language even if it literal meaning makes absolutely no sense."

Again, learn to debate.

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Zod has never taken on a nuke.


The comment was about Superman. Read the entire exchange to understand the conversation before commenting please.


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Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Can't believe how H1 got in your head S and M. You come back because he makes you. laughing out loud


He doesn't debate. He lurks and waits for someone to argue against Cap or Thor and then comments on their post. He doesn't ever contribute to threads by giving his take and reasoning. Heaven forbids anyone criticizes his argument if he did, lol.


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You get mad when your bias is questioned.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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You get mad when your bias is questioned.


Im not bias. I'm objective all the way.


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Lol!!!!

At least you have a sense of humor.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Thor gets incapacitated by some dumb little zappy gadget on his neck. What a weak, pansy loser.


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The comment was about Superman. Read the entire exchange to understand the conversation before commenting please.


Superman isn't part of this thread.


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Superman isn't part of this thread.

He is part of the discussion me and Darth were having.


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