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FrothByte
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Originally posted by h1a8
I agree with you except it is possible for Abom to grab Namor after a stab.
Namor didn't exactly stab and pull out at superspeed. He more or less stabbed and waited lol.


Possible but not likely. Namor was fast and agile enough to be dodging energy blasts from multiple ships.

Basically, Namor wins with his spear, loses in pure h2h.


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We clearly see what the writer want us to think.


No, you see what you want to see. And make your own ridiculously biased conclusions. Not objective facts.

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What imagination? Everyone who saw the scene for the first time thought the same thing. Those bullets will phuck Thor up. Plain and simple. Correct. And that's why Thor can resist such bullets, because he has the feats to prove so. Onscreen >> writer's intent. Stop exaggerating. I mention writer's intent in less than 0.1% of all debates. Writer's intent goes when it doesn't contradict onscreen showings.



Your very biased imagination.

No they didn't. And even if they did, that doesn't make one bit of difference. Because it's just what they Thought. Not any kind of Objective fact.

You really don't seem to grasp the difference between Objective and Subjective analysis.

Nope, you bring it every time there's no evidence to back up your claims.



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Forum rules aren't logical fallacies.
Feats determine strength, not writers intent.



Forum rules are logical. Your arguments are full of logical fallcies. You can't use negative feats (i.e. he didn't do lift something ergo he can't).

It just means he's not displayed that level of strength yet.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
Possible but not likely. Namor was fast and agile enough to be dodging energy blasts from multiple ships.

Basically, Namor wins with his spear, loses in pure h2h.
I'm referring to how he fights with the spear. Yes he would be fast and stab Abom. But he tends to not pull the spear out in time.
That would be a mistake.


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No, you see what you want to see. And make your own ridiculously biased conclusions. Not objective facts.




Your very biased imagination.

No they didn't. And even if they did, that doesn't make one bit of difference. Because it's just what they Thought. Not any kind of Objective fact.

You really don't seem to grasp the difference between Objective and Subjective analysis.

Nope, you bring it every time there's no evidence to back up your claims.






Forum rules are logical. Your arguments are full of logical fallcies. You can't use negative feats (i.e. he didn't do lift something ergo he can't).

It just means he's not displayed that level of strength yet.


Writers intent is pretty clear. Arguing against clear intent is trolling and a non starter.

You been on kmc long enough to know the rules.
Level of Strength, speed, durability, is established by onscreen feats.
If a character does not have any onscreen evidence then they do not get the special attribute.
Cap does not get magic in a forum fight just because we can't prove a negative. Namor doesn't get infinite strength just because we can't prove a negative. He gets the strength of his top feats. Nothing more. Those are the rules. Been that way since the very beginning of kmc.


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I'm referring to how he fights with the spear. Yes he would be fast and stab Abom. But he tends to not pull the spear out in time.
That would be a mistake.


Only when his opponent is quite clearly incapacitated. He's recovered his spear quickly enough when it wasn't the final blow.


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Only when his opponent is quite clearly incapacitated. He's recovered his spear quickly enough when it wasn't the final blow.


After a stab? I don't remember that.
I don't see him flying a lot against Abom. More grounded.
Also Abom is very quick with his hands (quick punches).

Iffy fight.


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Namor with his vibranium spear will poke Abom full of holes. But without it he's not beating Abom. Namor was strong but not at Abom or Hulk's level.

Remember that M'Baku was able to survive a full punch from Namor. I don't think he would have been able to survive a full punch from Hulk or Abom, even with his armor.

Namor broke jabari wood armor which is comparable to vibranium itself. You know which Thor wasn't even able to dent?

Namor destroys abomination.


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Namor broke jabari wood armor which is comparable to vibranium itself. You know which Thor wasn't even able to dent?

Namor destroys abomination.


Nowhere in the movies is it ever mentioned that M'Baku's armor is as strong as vibranium.


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^ Even Duke hasnt said that (whoever he is).

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MBAku stated it was just Oak.


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I have no idea what you are talking about. Can you direct me to it? Thread and exchange?

Sure.

When Stoic used the words 'a bit'

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mp;pagenumber=3

Despite further clarification from him that he meant 5%, you ignored it and continued to assert that my position was wrong, based on writer's intent.

Yet we had a rare opportunity for the writer to clarify, which you ignored.

My guess is that you will excuse it by saying you didn't see it.


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Abomination will beat the living being out of Namor.
I love comic book Namor. MCU Namor was a disappointment powerset wise after Coogler hyped him.


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Nowhere in the movies is it ever mentioned that M'Baku's armor is as strong as vibranium.

Of course it is.
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^ Even Duke hasnt said that (whoever he is).

Winston Duke plays M'baku, moron.


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Of course it is.
Winston Duke plays M'baku, moron.


No, it wasn't mentioned at all. If you believe it is then please provide the exact quote.


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Winston Duke plays M'baku, moron.



Oh shit… Winston Duke? Winston Duke? The most famous actor in Hollywood right now?

Shut up and quote a proper source you dork.

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Oh shit… Winston Duke? Winston Duke? The most famous actor in Hollywood right now?

Shut up and quote a proper source you dork.

You mean like the actor who's playing M'baku isn't quoting proper on the weapons his character has?

You were always such a moron.


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Ok and? I'm still waiting for you to post the quote where it says the plants were as tough as vibranium.

You do know that "affecting" something doesn't mean it replicates its properties exactly right?


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You mean like the actor who's playing M'baku isn't quoting proper on the weapons his character has?

You were always such a moron.



Yeah next I should go ask Harrison Ford about how good a sword fighter Han Solo is. I'm sure that answer would be totally canon.

Dummy.

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Abomination. Again, maneuverability is Namor's friend, but if he had a toe-to-toe fight with Shuri Black Panther, Emil is going to pulverize him with.

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