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A buddy of mine claims there was a comic where Thor and Silver Surfer were chasing something in space and Thor admitted Norrin is faster than he. Was there such a scene?

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^ A bunch of heroes conceded that they couldn't catch up to Silver Surfer and Nova during Annihilation: Scourge. Beta Ray Bill was among them.

Can't really remember a similar scene with Thor though.

Only other thing that comes to mind is when Silver Surfer commented how fast Mjolnir was when he chased after it. But Thor had summoned it from within the Demogorge and was nowhere near Silver Surfer at the time.


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A buddy of mine claims there was a comic where Thor and Silver Surfer were chasing something in space and Thor admitted Norrin is faster than he. Was there such a scene?

Yes, Fantastic Four 41 (2018).

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Yes, Fantastic Four 41 (2018).

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No argument here. But to get back on topic, I heard once that there was some retcon that linked the being "Infinity" Odin once fought (being a rogue aspect of his own personality or something) to the Marvel abstract Infinity, but I've never seen proof of that.


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Kronos states it in Quasar #19:

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Thanks, interesting.


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Would you happen to have the scan that states that Odin was helping Thor when he drove away Galactus? That's another one I've heard about but never seen.


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Would you happen to have the scan that states that Odin was helping Thor when he drove away Galactus? That's another one I've heard about but never seen.

Thor annual 14

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It's funny how Thor seems like he's desperately trying to cope with some of these ('yeah, I don't believe they're really as strong as they say... I could take 'em').


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That scan, plus our earlier chat, made me think:

How often are Asgardians (normal no -name ones) actually shown with feats? Does anyone have scans of that? And by that, I don't mean lip service or hype like in Thor's scan.

Like when normal Kryptonians pushed a moon/planet, or a handful beat Doomsday to death, that's kinda thing.


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Like when normal Kryptonians pushed a moon/planet, or a handful beat Doomsday to death, that's kinda thing.


They are not on that level, obviously. Not anywhere close to it.

Titania got it right when she compared an average Asgardian to Spiderpussy - just without Spiderpussy's plot armor, of course.


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They are not on that level, obviously. Not anywhere close to it.

Titania got it right when she compared an average Asgardian to Spiderpussy - just without Spiderpussy's plot armor, of course.


Yeah, but even that is again, hype and lip service (i.e. someone saying it). Are there actually any scans of them having feats?


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Would you happen to have the scan that states that Odin was helping Thor when he drove away Galactus? That's another one I've heard about but never seen.
It's not a mythical scan because it exists. But Thor breaking the 4th wall in a backend to a Thor annual has as much probative value as Spider-Man breaking the 4th wall in a backend to a Spider-Man annual where he ranked all the Marvel superheroes by strength and put Silver Surfer next to Luke Cage and below that, put himself next to Colossus.

Read the actual comic to see whether Thor used Odin's power or his own:
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Yeah, but even that is again, hype and lip service (i.e. someone saying it). Are there actually any scans of them having feats?
Depends on what you mean by Asgardians. Balder is an Asgardian but he is a proper Odinson Asgardian god. Most Asgardians are not of Odin's blood or royalty.

If you eliminate all those of Odin's blood, you eliminate characters like Bor, Balder, Angela, Tyr, Vidar, etc.

If you eliminate all those of royalty, you eliminate characters like Freya, Heimdall, Sif, Karnilla, etc.

Hermod, Brunhilde, Hildegarde, Volstagg, Hogun and Fandral aren't of Odin's blood/royalty. As honored as they are, they're like exceptional Asgardian fodder? They're some of the ones with the most physical feats.

Enchantress and Kelda aren't of Odin's blood/royalty either and have the most magical feats.

Other characters like Loki, Hela, Executioner, aren't Asgardians per se. They're different races of the Nine Worlds altogether.

As for fodder Asgardians? Doctor Doom experimented on fodder Asgardians and explained their enhanced physiology and near immortality:

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Later on, he confirmed all Asgardians had some measure of Odinforce within them. He harvested it from those fodder Asgardians to power his Doom Destroyer armor.


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Yeah I meant none of those named Asgardians. Literal fodder, and even the scan you posted, it was just lip service/hype.

The example I gave was of the Kryps, when they're beating Doomsday to death or pushing moons/planets.


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Edit: by no-name, I don't mean limited to literally unnamed (though that can obviously work best). I meant those without special renown - i wouldn't disqualify a scan just because Thor calls one of them out by name or something.


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^ Well it seems as soon as normal Asgardians start getting actual feats... you refuse to consider them normal Asgardian fodder anymore? You see the problem with that, right? You're begging an impossible question.

This seems to be a pointless exercise. What's the underlying purpose of it?
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Yeah I meant none of those named Asgardians. Literal fodder, and even the scan you posted, it was just lip service/hype.

The example I gave was of the Kryps, when they're beating Doomsday to death or pushing moons/planets.
How is that scan lip service/hype? Doom vivisected a fodder Asgardian and revealed his scientific discoveries about what apparently is a baseline for ordinary Asgardians. This poor schlub, Endrik, that was drugged and lured by Loki to Doom when they were in Latveria:
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