looks like it:
1. Scarletspider - Warpath
2. Adam Warlock - Warbird
3. dman2008 - Wonder Girl
4. illadelph12 - Karate Kid
5. Ethereal - Occulus
6. Khellendros - Sebastian Shaw
7. Blair Wind - Duplicate Boy
8. roughrider -
9. Dark Urizen - EEEEEEVILLLLL Mimic (no powers mimiced)
10. grey fox - Ultimate Captain America
11. K Von Doom - Dark Hawk
12. Darkcrawler - Agent Zero
13. Scoobless - Iron Man
14. stormfront - Mimic (without Northstar's abilities)
15. LP - Multiple Man
16. deadpool909 - Scarlet Spider
how strong and fast is Wonder Girl? anything like Wonder Woman's abilities?
Thalfi sounds ok to me, actually... Scoob's site says he is as fast as someone who is at light speed, but his handbook stats put him perfectly within the limits. Which do we believe? I'd tend to lean more towards the stats, unless he really has feats to back up his lightspeediness.
The strength cap is for a benchpress, not how much force someone can put into a punch.
KK has some ridiculous feats pre-crisis... Deflecting near-lightspeed projectiles makes him a bit iffy for me, but he seems to have gotten general apporval, so he still remains yours, Ill.
And you probably shouldn't argue about striking power. On DC's feat list for him, when he shattered a mystic gem thingy, there was a little bit left out. Before he shattered it, Superboy (PRE CRISIS Superboy, meaning tossing planets around and such) had taken a full swing at it, to no avail. KK can pretty much put down ANYONE with a single strike, but it is again due to skill, not a superpower. (though Superboy level durability seemed to also stop him... KK demonstrated his skills using Superboy as a dummy, because he couldn't do any real damage to him) Val is a disgustingly good pick, and still remains within the limits.
I think I might be able to guess one of Illadelph's strategies. Or at least I can think of a very good use for Karate Kid.
Cassie is like Wonderwoman lite... Id say her strength is pushing the limit, and her speed is up there too. They're definitely not on WW's level though.
Originally posted by Scoobless
looks like it:1. Scarletspider - Warpath
2. Adam Warlock - Warbird
3. dman2008 - Wonder Girl
4. illadelph12 - Karate Kid
5. Ethereal - Occulus
6. Khellendros - Sebastian Shaw
7. Blair Wind - Duplicate Boy
8. roughrider -
9. Dark Urizen - EEEEEEVILLLLL Mimic (no powers mimiced)
10. grey fox - Ultimate Captain America
11. K Von Doom - Dark Hawk
12. Darkcrawler - Agent Zero
13. Scoobless - Iron Man
14. stormfront - Mimic (without Northstar's abilities)
15. LP - Multiple Man
16. deadpool909 - Scarlet Spiderhow strong and fast is Wonder Girl? anything like Wonder Woman's abilities?
She around the 75-80 ton mark and and she can fly at or a little lower then the speed of sound.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Thalfi sounds ok to me, actually... Scoob's site says he is as fast as someone who is at light speed, but his handbook stats put him perfectly within the limits. Which do we believe? I'd tend to lean more towards the stats, unless he really has feats to back up his lightspeediness.
no ones shown his handbook stats, someone showed stats from the site "immortalthor.net" then used the numbers from the handbook (a completely different system) to say he's ok
he travelled from Asgard to earth faster than Thor could and Thor can fly/teleport pretty damn fast
Thiafli's fine with me.
Here are his stats :
Intelligence: Gifted (6/10)
Strength: Superhuman Class 35 (5/12)
Speed: Supersonic (9/10)
Stamina: Superhuman (6/10)
Durability: Superhuman (7/14)
Agility: Superhuman (6/7)
Reflexes: Superhuman (6/7)
Here's what all those numbers mean:
Marvel Universe Stats
These stats are taken from the Marvel Universe Handbook Master EditionIntelligence: Ability to think
1 - Non-Sentient: instinctual behavior only
2 - Learning Impaired: major mental deficiencies
3 - Below Normal: minor mental deficiencies
4 - Normal: possessing an intelligence quotient that is approximately average
5 - Above Normal: possessing a significantly higher than average IQ
6 - Gifted: possessing a significantly higher than average IQ and creative talents
7 - Genius: possessing an extremely high IQ and creative talents
8 - Extraordinary Genius: possessing genius in multiple intellectual areas
9 - Superhuman: possessing genius in virtually all intellectual areas
10 - Immeasurable: alien, omniscientStrength: Ability to lift weight above one's head with arms fully extended
1 - Below Normal: cannot lift one's own body weight
2 - Normal: able to lift one's own body weight
3 - Athlete: able to lift from one's own body weight up to double one's own body weight
4 - Peak Human: able to lift double one's own body weight to 800 pound range
5 - Enhanced Human: able to lift in the 800 pound to 2 ton range
6 - Superhuman Class 10: able to lift in the 2 to 10 ton range
7 - Superhuman Class 25: able to lift in the 10 to 25 ton range
8 - Superhuman Class 50: able to lift in the 25 to 50 ton range
9 - Superhuman Class 75: able to lift in the 50 to 75 ton range
10 - Superhuman Class 90: able to lift in the 75 to 90 ton range
11 - Superhuman Class 100: able to lift in the 90 to 100 ton range
12 - Incalculable: able to lift in excess of 100 tonsSpeed: Ability to move over land by running
1 - Below Normal: cannot attain 3-5 miles per hour
2 - Normal: peak range: 6-10 miles per hour
3 - Athlete: peak range: 11-20 miles per hour
4 - Peak Human: peak range: 21-35 miles per hour
5 - Enhanced Human: peak range: 36-65 miles per hour
6 - Superhuman: peak range: 111-115 miles per hour
7 - Subsonic: peak range: 250-500 miles per hour
8 - Speed of Sound: able to reach Mach 1: 770 miles per hour at sea level
9 - Supersonic: peak range: Mach 2 to Mach 4.6: .22-1 miles per second
10 - Orbital Velocity: peak range: Mach 18.7 to Mach 23.3: 1-5 miles per second; when a runner reaches this speed he is no longer in contact with the ground and thus not runningFlight Speed: Ability to move through open air or space by flying
1 - Hover only
2 - Directed Motion Hovering: peak range: 10-30 miles per hour
3 - Natural Winged Flight Limit: peak range: 150-160 miles per hour
4 - Artificial Winged Flight: peak limit: 160-200 miles per hour
5 - Subsonic: peak range: 250-500 miles per hour
6 - Speed of Sound: able to reach Mach 1: 770 miles per hour; .22 miles per second
7 - Supersonic: peak range: Mach 2 to Mach 4.6: .22-1 miles per second
8 - Orbital Velocity: peak range: Mach 18.7 to Mach 23.3: 1-5 miles per second
9 - Escape Velocity: Mach 32.7: 7 miles per second
10 - Sub-light Speed: peak range: 80% - 99.65% light speed: 150,000 to 185,620 miles per second
11 - Light Speed: 186,000 miles per second, cannot be attained by physical beings within Earth's atmosphere
12 - Warp Speed: able to enter and traverse through warp space by transcending light speed, cannot be attained by physical beings within Earth's atmosphereWater Speed: Ability to move through water by swimming (NOTE: 1 knot=1.151 miles per hour)
1 - Normal: peak range: 3-5 knots
2 - Athlete: peak range: 7-12 knots
3 - Peak Human: peak range: 12-15 knots
4 - Enhanced Human: peak range: 20-25 knots
5 - Superhuman: peak range: 50-60 knots
6 - Maximum: around 700 knots, detrimental environmental effects will occur, causing water to convert to plasma, etcStamina: Ability to sustain peak exertion before fatigue impairs performance
1 - Below Normal: unable to sustain for 1 minute
2 - Normal: able to sustain for 1 minute
3 - Athlete: able to sustain for several minutes
4 - Peak Human: able to sustain for up to an hour
5 - Enhanced Human: able to sustain for several hours
6 - Superhuman: able to sustain for up to a day
7 - Metahuman: able to sustain for several days
8 - Demi-godlike: able to sustain for weeks
9 - Godlike: able to sustain almost indefinitely
10 - Immeasurable: never tire due to self-generating energyDurability: Ability to resist or recover from bodily injury or disease
1 - Below Normal
2 - Normal: average resilience
3 - Athlete: conditioned metabolism enabling efficient healing
4 - Peak Human: conditioned metabolism enabling extraordinarily efficient healing
5 - Enhanced Human: skin, bone, and muscle augmented to make it stronger and harder than human; impervious to injury to a certain extent
6 - Enhanced Human Regenerative: skin, bone, and muscle retains human durability but body is able to heal near-lethal injuries by regenerating cells to a limited extent
7 - Superhuman: skin, bone, and muscle augmented to make it stronger and harder than human; impervious to injury to an extraordinary extent
8 - Superhuman Regenerative: able to regenerate injured tissue and brain cells to an extraordinary degree; but not able to regenerate missing limbs or organs
9 - Metahuman: able to withstand extreme temperatures and pressures, and virtually all toxins, corrosives, punctures, and concussions without sustaining injury
10 - Metahuman Regenerative: able to regenerate injured or missing brain cells, tissue, limbs or organs
11 - Demi-godlike: able to withstand all injury short of a direct nuclear explosion
12 - Demi-godlike Regenerative: able to heal all injury short of a direct nuclear explosion
13 - Godlike: able to reconstitute body after total molecular disintegration
14 - Totally Indestructible: absolutely cannot be injuredAgility: Ability to move the body with flexibility and coordination
1 - Below Normal
2 - Normal
3 - Athlete
4 - Peak Human
5 - Enhanced Human: beyond the natural limits of the human body
6 - Superhuman: significantly beyond the natural limits of the human body
7 - Metahuman: extraordinarily beyond the natural limits of the human bodyReflexes: Reaction time
1 - Below Normal
2 - Normal
3 - Athlete
4 - Peak Human
5 - Enhanced Human: beyond the natural limits of the human body
6 - Superhuman: virtually instantaneous
7 - Metahuman: instantaneous
His running speed is supersonic. The only reason why I'm defending this guy is that I would have chosen him myself.
So he's running at Mach 4 slashing away at everybody. He can still be KO'd. Take Warbird for example... He runs into a Photonic energy blast while running at that speed, he'll take himself right out of the fight. Most of our characters can move at subsonic and supersonic speeds. It's not like they won't be able to see him or react to him. Iron Man flying around breaks the sound barrier, plus with all his tech and what not, I'm sure he'd be able to hit someone going that fast. Plus, I don't think he can fly.
Any character now from now on, that is taken from ImmortalThor.net, refer to the stats above. Unless there is irrefutable comic book proof that these characters are written way beyond their stats(Scans) then they should let them be. Sure some character bios are out of date at ImmortalThor.net, but most are pretty accurate.
Originally posted by Scoobless
no ones shown his handbook stats, someone showed stats from the site "immortalthor.net" then used the numbers from the handbook (a completely different system) to say he's okhe travelled from Asgard to earth faster than Thor could and Thor can fly/teleport pretty damn fast
Again, it's still comparing against another character. Thor's speed is very inconsistantly portrayed... He's been clocked up to something like 3 times lightspeed, and still gets beat up on by Mongoose. Did Thor actually try to teleport when Thiafli beat him to Earth from Asgard?
I still think handbook stats hold more weight than comparison to other characters, when no real speeds are stated. Even if roughrider is concealing some uber speedgod, as soon as he tries to make a case for him being beyond Mach 10, or potentially going beyond mach 10, TOAA stomps on him and he's down to 3 guys.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Again, it's still comparing against another character. Thor's speed is very inconsistantly portrayed... He's been clocked up to something like 3 times lightspeed, and still gets beat up on by Mongoose. Did Thor actually try to teleport when Thiafli beat him to Earth from Asgard?I still think handbook stats hold more weight than comparison to other characters, when no real speeds are stated. Even if roughrider is concealing some uber speedgod, as soon as he tries to make a case for him being beyond Mach 10, or potentially going beyond mach 10, TOAA stomps on him and he's down to 3 guys.
nah, he should be fine if he sticks to that handbook limit.... plus he's never been shown using superspeed for anything other than point A to B travel.... i doubt he has Quicksilver's reflexes
Originally posted by thesilverspider
Scoob post the picks again.
you lazy f**k... they're still at the top of this page
-sigh-
1. Scarletspider - Warpath
2. Adam Warlock - Warbird
3. dman2008 - Wonder Girl
4. illadelph12 - Karate Kid
5. Ethereal - Occulus
6. Khellendros - Sebastian Shaw
7. Blair Wind - Duplicate Boy
8. roughrider - Thialfi
9. Dark Urizen - EVIL Mimic (no powers mimiced)
10. grey fox - Ultimate Captain America
11. K Von Doom - Dark Hawk
12. Darkcrawler - Agent Zero
13. Scoobless - Iron Man
14. stormfront - Mimic (without Northstar's abilities)
15. LP - Multiple Man
16. deadpool909 - Scarlet Spider