Newjak
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
See, that's the problem right there. Superman doesn't and shouldn't play second fiddle to wonder woman.
Simple question to this. Why should Superman never play second fiddle to Wonder Woman?
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May 29th, 2015 04:01 PM
deathslash
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Newjak
Simple question to this. Why should Superman never play second fiddle to Wonder Woman?
the simplest reason is that he's the poster boy for DC and she's not.
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May 29th, 2015 04:31 PM
Newjak
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by deathslash
the simplest reason is that he's the poster boy for DC and she's not.
That's a reason but not a good one imo.
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May 29th, 2015 04:37 PM
Bentley
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Newjak
That's a reason but not a good one imo.
Popularity and importance always get in the way of exploring plots. Characters like Batman won't die because they are emblematic and sell books, they won't suffer permanent status quo changes either for the very same reason. So whether we like it or not, it's a valid reason for many.
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May 29th, 2015 04:41 PM
Newjak
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Bentley
Popularity and importance always get in the way of exploring plots. Characters like Batman won't die because they are emblematic and sell books, they won't suffer permanent status quo changes either for the very same reason. So whether we like it or not, it's a valid reason for many.
Valid and good aren't the same.
It has been a valid point does not mean it needs to stay that way or that it was a good reason to ever begin with.
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May 29th, 2015 04:45 PM
BruhMan
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Character status or powers shouldn't even be the focus of the relationship it should be about the characters first. If they handled it better we wouldn't even be worrying about who looked better than the other (Come on. Clark was tapping that. He won. Relax lol)
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May 29th, 2015 04:47 PM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Newjak
Simple question to this. Why should Superman never play second fiddle to Wonder Woman?
Because it's not a character trait since his first comic? He is the top gun whenever he is present and that's just too deeply ingrained in public subconscious to displace. There is a reason it's called "This looks like a job for Superman" and not "This looks like a job for Wonder Woman".
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May 29th, 2015 05:10 PM
Newjak
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Because it's not a character trait since his first comic? He is the top gun whenever he is present and that's just too deeply ingrained in public subconscious to displace. There is a reason it's called "This looks like a job for Superman" and not "This looks like a job for Wonder Woman".
So basically status quo and you don't want Superman to play second fiddle.
Like I said that is a reason but not a good one imo.
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May 29th, 2015 05:11 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Galan007
It falls under the same category as Injustice , me thinks.
Sad thing is Bruce will probably whoop him in the next issue....
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May 29th, 2015 05:21 PM
-Pr-
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Nice to know some people only see things in powersets...
Anyway, guys? There has to be another thread for this.
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May 29th, 2015 05:22 PM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Newjak
So basically status quo and you don't want Superman to play second fiddle.
Like I said that is a reason but not a good one imo.
Meh, why fix something which isn't broken?
Anyway that's last post from me on this topic.
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May 29th, 2015 05:24 PM
BruhMan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by -Pr-
Nice to know some people only see things in powersets...
And here lies the problem
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May 29th, 2015 05:43 PM
Bentley
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Newjak
Valid and good aren't the same.
It has been a valid point does not mean it needs to stay that way or that it was a good reason to ever begin with.
I made this particular argument because we shouldn't pretend Superman can be separated from the fictional genre he represents. We shouldn't mistake "comic Superman" with "any fiction Superman".
This doesn't mean there aren't valid points for Superman being like he is. Technically speaking a character should be able to appear in any kind of fiction and have infinite variety, but at the same time, characters staying in their core concept also makes them richer and gives sense to the fiction in which they participate. This is both a valid point and a good point.
Edit: Eh, I just saw Pr's message, so I want to abide with his ruling (despite appearances he's still a mod ), if I have another comment like this I'll send it by PM.
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May 29th, 2015 06:19 PM
Galan007
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May 29th, 2015 06:28 PM
Galan007
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^ Doom's bomb sent all the abstracts to different companies.
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May 29th, 2015 06:35 PM
StiltmanFTW
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It would be awesome if he broke Bruce again.
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May 29th, 2015 06:58 PM
Galan007
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That's avatar material, right there.
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