Originally posted by mechmoggy
Fair enough, but back in my day it was waaaay over priced. Besides, I'd rather drop a little fella than take a line anyday. Much more fun and longer lasting.I must stress again that I don't condone this type of behaviour. It took me ages to have fun without E after I stopped dropping. That alone is the one reason I'll steer clear of such things in future.
Its still overpriced considering that the effects last up to 20 minutes and the come down all day. Bah!
You aint old Mechy, you need a while to recover maybe, but that doesnt make you old, jsut a bit of a lightweight. 😛 mwahahah!
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As for the coke, the fact is that the more you take it, the worse the comedowns get.
Everything in moderation, as I said before.
If people abuse legal drugs such as alcohol, they could easely drop dead from alcohol poisoning, damage their liver, or simply get killed in car accident.
Its the same for any concious inducing chemicals - moderation people.
User versus abuser. Differance.
The only problem is that some find is so euphoric they can't stop....I've know people that have had the insides of their noses eaten out, and dropped lots of weight, nervous, etc......The ocassional user if one could really stay ocassional wouldn't have such a problem, but it has your heart racing if you take too much...heart attacks...bad.
Same as any drug that can stimlate your neurotransmitters. serotonin...etc.
What is Cocaine Addiction?
Cocaine, as a stimulant, mimics the action of chemicals your brain produces to send messages of pleasure to your brain's reward center. Like adrenaline, cocaine increases your heart rate, blood pressure and breathing rate. Cocaine also constricts blood vessels, dilates pupils, releases sugar and fat into your blood stream, and energizes the brain to increased alertness. Stimulants increase feelings of anger, fear or agitation (fight or flight) and feelings of well-being, riding high, exhilaration or euphoria. When the stimulation goes too high, it produces feelings of panic, paranoia, hallucinations and rage that can progress to potentially fatal seizures and strokes. Ultimately, the brain becomes depressed by the local anesthetic effects, and coma and death can occur.
Cocaine produces an artificial feeling of pleasure by chemically mimicking certain normal brain messenger chemicals that produce positive feelings in response to signals from the brain.
I've been saying the user/abuser thing for ages, and I do think it is a bit silly to say "moderation".
Some people can't moderate, hence addiction. Some people have addictive personalities. That's not stupidity with drugs, it's just very unfortunate.
Some people will be drug abusers, some will be drug users. There will always be drugs and people to use/abuse them. The most important and realistic route to take besides legalising them (which won't happen) is to stop treating drugs as some taboo subject. Painting it with the "life-wrecking" brush.
Compassion rather than condemnation.
-AC
Cocaine and Escasty use on the rise in Europe
second only to cannibus.....interesting shame too.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051124/lf_afp/euhealthdrugs_051124222422
Shiit...how can people willfully insert deadly poisonous chemicals to alter thier phisiological and mental states.
They must wanna kill them selves, just slowly.
lol, like playing russian roulet in slow motion.
I heard about a 1st timer in his mid-20's who sniffed cocaine, and got a heart attack and died. And he was healthy too.
Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I heard about a 1st timer in his mid-20's who sniffed cocaine, and got a heart attack and died. And he was healthy too.
Loads of healthy people die everyday without drugs.
With regards to people acting like if you take drugs, you're on a life-ruining death sentence: Keith Richards.
There's no more to my debate. That one name does the job.
-AC
Originally posted by BackFire
I've never personally done any illicit drugs, and I'd definately never do cocain. Not worth the risk, IMO.I don't care what others do with their time, though. If you wanna take coke, take it, don't care. Just don't go bitching if/when you get arrested for it.
What about the burden to the tax payers
The uneeded work for the Police, social and health services
Coked up people who get in fights
Serotonin dumped coke addicts who ended up in Asylums or are walking timebombs of violence etc. etc.
thats all something to ***** about imo 🙂
user/abuser is not a matter of choice.
some people get addicted far easier than others.
i marvel at someone who can smoke a pack of cigarretes at the
bar and be done with smoking until weeks later.
now, would it make sense for them to go aroud saying
'users/abusers' as if it was a matter of choice?
if you have the CHOICE to me moderate or not,
consider that a gift. for many that is not possible.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
What about the burden to the tax payers
The uneeded work for the Police, social and health services
Coked up people who get in fights
Serotonin dumped coke addicts who ended up in Asylums or are walking timebombs of violence etc. etc.thats all something to ***** about imo 🙂
All valid points, WS. I never said I was for coke or that people shouldn't complain about the burden to society of many illicit drugs, I said that when/if people get arrested for USING the drug they should not complain(the people who are arrested). They knew full well that what they were doing was illegal and the possible consequences for doing said act and they went ahead with it and chose to do it regaurdless. I have no sympathy for these people and don't want to hear their whining.
Originally posted by PVS
user/abuser is not a matter of choice.
some people get addicted far easier than others.
i marvel at someone who can smoke a pack of cigarretes at the
bar and be done with smoking until weeks later.
now, would it make sense for them to go aroud saying
'users/abusers' as if it was a matter of choice?
if you have the CHOICE to me moderate or not,
consider that a gift. for many that is not possible.
I also wanted to add is that if you are an abuser the first choice you had was to be a user........so after they get addicted it can get tough for sympathy you just know they need it
Whats the expression hate the sin love the sinner.....oh and hate the socio-economic burden it places🙂
User or Abuser remember at one time the abuser was only a user.
Originally posted by BackFireTrue....and many were my friends also...they some, a few, decided to try heroin...could never kick it.....but would never judge them as stupid really, only curious and human...they didn't know they had an addictive chemistry.......Had some friends and relatives do the OD thing.....so sad. 🙁
They knew full well that what they were doing was illegal and the possible consequences for doing said act and they went ahead with it and chose to do it regaurdless. .
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I agree, I did just say this.It doesn't change the fact that there is a difference between users and abusers, though.
Whirly, that's a completely different debate.
-AC
How about the User who gets a stroke first time out and has to have medical care for the rest of his/her life 🙂