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BackFire
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Oh, boohoo, violence in a film, woe is me.

I tire of people whining about some violence. If you don't want to watch violence, then don't see rated R movies.

All violence is unnecessary in films, all of it. It's done for atmosphere, or in some cases, simple novelty entertainment. Who cares? Really?


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Why do people have a problem with gore and violence in movies??? What the Hell? Do people really believe that shit about blamming films for some murder or crime? If a person can't tell the difference between a movie and real life then that person is a total IDIOT!

QT has only uses a moderated style of Gore in his movies. In Vol.1 he only increases it a little. So what? Someone has a problem with it.....TOO BAD!


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why is he a genius? he spent his whole life watching movies, so he has a near infinite resource to give his own original movies a certain degree of homage all while adding his own unique twist to things. Thats what makes him great... and violence is expected, movies arent supposed to be boring like everyday life. A little violence is shocking/surprising every now and then wink


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you know about the gore and violence thing. In kill bill volume 1. If tarentino hadnt made the blood and gore as ridiculously exagerated as he did, it would then be violent. The way he did it was very comedically non violent though. Shit the f.C.C's piss them selves so much, we have to watch the last fight scene in black and white. that is bullcrap. In ascene like this where the violence a humourous aspect, whereas in the passion the gore was for brutality, but the F.C.C's diddnt whine about that shit. we diddnt have to watch those scenes in black and white.


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Its really not that hard just think of a few violent and mindless-uneccessary things

Heres one

A sword goes threw a guys eye and then the person rips the blade from his head.

See its not that hard to think up mindless gore smile


So you're saying gangsters discussing divine intervention is "mindless gore?" Non-violent examples of Tarantino's writing prowess for those uninterested in "mindless, unnecessary things" (by the way, if it's mindless, wouldn't it already be unnecessary?): the argument about tipping and the brilliant "toilet story" in Reservoir Dogs; the revealing of what the French call a quarter-pounder and the argument concerning the differences of a foot massage and oral sex in Pulp Fiction; the meticulous double-crossing and Samuel L. Jackson's thing for screwdrivers (solid characterization starts with minute things) in Jackie Brown; and finally, the ethical dilemma when--SPOILER--The Bride finds Bill with their child in Kill Bill Vol. 2. Of course, I could list examples all day long.
Classic plays such as Oedipus Rex and Hamlet had loads of violence; there's nothing wrong with violence in art whether it be for realism, humor, or dramatic tension.

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quote:
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Oh, boohoo, violence in a film, woe is me.

I tire of people whining about some violence. If you don't want to watch violence, then don't see rated R movies.

All violence is unnecessary in films, all of it. It's done for atmosphere, or in some cases, simple novelty entertainment. Who cares? Really?


I wasnt whining I just thought his movie focused on it too much and didnt have any good story.That he saved for the second which made me think his un-chronological pattern didnt work.


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Why do people have a problem with gore and violence in movies??? What the Hell? Do people really believe that shit about blamming films for some murder or crime? If a person can't tell the difference between a movie and real life then that person is a total IDIOT!

QT has only uses a moderated style of Gore in his movies. In Vol.1 he only increases it a little. So what? Someone has a problem with it.....TOO BAD!


I dont have a problem with gore but when a movie focuses more on it than the story and characters then thats when I have a problem.


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Pulp Fictions the greatest movie yes


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should talk bout this sorta crap in the directors/actors forum, but to answer your question..... i dunno


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This should be moved to the QT/Kill Bill forum


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He is a genius because his films are the coolist. He has original ideas. If there was a mountrushmore for great film makers he would be up there with Steven Speilsberge...


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He has good ideas but he just doesnt know how to put them together in a way that fits.


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If tarentino hadnt made the blood and gore as ridiculously exagerated as he did, it would then be violent. The way he did it was very comedically non violent though.
Again, he was paying homage to old samurai/kung fu flicks in which the blood would spray out violently after a dismemberment.


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Yes i know that. I was just pointing out the fact. The F.C.C's actually got on him about the extreme blood. that is when he told them, that yeah he could take out all the spraying, and replace it with more realistic blood splatter, but that is what would make it violent. after weeks of fighting, tarentino agreed to have the last battle in black and white so he diddnt have to change anything in the film.


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He has good ideas but he just doesnt know how to put them together in a way that fits.


I dont know, i think his best feature of film making, besides his writing is infact making his movies fit into a non linear story.


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I love his writing, but ive only seen the kill bill franchise so I really cant speak for any of his other films.


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QT is a post modernist - nothing is original anyway. This is like the backlash against early dance music and hip-hop that used samples from old seventies funk.
But now we appreciate these tunes as masterpieces in their own right.
The reason he's hailed as a genius though is because he has a knack for catching the zeitgeist and driving a classic movie through its heart.


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Yes i know that. I was just pointing out the fact. The F.C.C's actually got on him about the extreme blood. that is when he told them, that yeah he could take out all the spraying, and replace it with more realistic blood splatter, but that is what would make it violent. after weeks of fighting, tarentino agreed to have the last battle in black and white so he diddnt have to change anything in the film.


lol yeah... they release movies like saving private ryan -where the soldiers be walking around carrying thier legs and intestines- without a scratch and kill bill had to be edited? pffsh... FCC really needs to rework thier policies


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lol yeah... they release movies like saving private ryan -where the soldiers be walking around carrying thier legs and intestines- without a scratch and kill bill had to be edited? pffsh... FCC really needs to rework thier policies


I understand what you mean, but, the mayhem and extreme violence in SPR was necessary.


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I dont have a problem with gore but when a movie focuses more on it than the story and characters then thats when I have a problem.


You see, the characters are despicable human beings that don't care about human life (in other words they are hitman or assasins). So of course they are violent and brutal. Therefore the gore you see is essential to make the characters looked more evil and menacing. Gore is part of the character. Same with the violence.


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