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Originally posted by jpsmith5
Obi-Wan's Form III vs. Mace's Form VII Vaapad. But how much of an advantage would Windu's Vaapad have against a Light Side opponent like Obi-Wan? Which great fighter comes out the victor and explain why you think so.

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Originally posted by Nai Fohl
The Obi-Wan supporters here deserve a very hard spanking from their noob moms. Hell...are you people annoying.

Here is why Obi-Wan will lose:

A)
Mace defeated Sidious (and that is clear. Watch the goddamn movie or read the ROTS novel - BOTH state that) and Yoda told Obi-Wan that he's not powerful enough to fight Sidious. Mace 1 Obi 0.

B)
Mace was on the Council in an age when Obi-Wan just became a Jedi Knight. Mace 2 Obi 0

C)
Mace invented his own fighting style before he became a Padawan so he is very talented in lightsaber combat. And his form is superior to form III when it comes to a lightsaber duel (ask Nick Gillard for details). Mace 3 Obi 0.

D)
Mace could only be defeated by Yoda himself and Dooku. Dooku wasted Obi-Wan easily 2 times (AotC and RotS). Mace would probably just do the same. Mace 4 Obi 0.

E)
Mace has his unique Shatterpoint ability to find and exploit weak points of his opponents and Obi-Wan could do nothing against that. Mace 5 Obi 0.

Mace wins. And just for that dumb reasoning about why the Council sended Obi-Wan to kill Grievous. It was a trap for Sidious. Yoda went to Kashyyyk because he would be the one the Dark Lord would fear. Obi-Wan was sended to take out Grievous because of two reasons:

1.) They needed somebody with a very defensive fighting style to fight somebody who could use 4 lightsabers at once and enough force powers

2.) Mace had to stay on Coruscant (being second in command) and Anakin had to stay on Coruscant because he should keep an eye on Palpatine.

And for gods sake: Mace already defeated GG before Obi-Wan went to fight him (LOE), and Yoda clearly said that he would be the only other Jedi able to defeat Dooku (DR) and we saw that he was the only Jedi (except Yoda himself) who was able to survive a fight with Sidious. Obi-Wan is getting owned here.

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Originally posted by MAKASHIMAN
Obi-Wan wins. I am the New Jawa Emperor.

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Originally posted by Nai Fohl
The Obi-Wan supporters here deserve a very hard spanking from their noob moms. Hell...are you people annoying.

Here is why Obi-Wan will lose:

A)
Mace defeated Sidious (and that is clear. Watch the goddamn movie or read the ROTS novel - BOTH state that) and Yoda told Obi-Wan that he's not powerful enough to fight Sidious. Mace 1 Obi 0.

B)
Mace was on the Council in an age when Obi-Wan just became a Jedi Knight. Mace 2 Obi 0

C)
Mace invented his own fighting style before he became a Padawan so he is very talented in lightsaber combat. And his form is superior to form III when it comes to a lightsaber duel (ask Nick Gillard for details). Mace 3 Obi 0.

D)
Mace could only be defeated by Yoda himself and Dooku. Dooku wasted Obi-Wan easily 2 times (AotC and RotS). Mace would probably just do the same. Mace 4 Obi 0.

E)
Mace has his unique Shatterpoint ability to find and exploit weak points of his opponents and Obi-Wan could do nothing against that. Mace 5 Obi 0.

Mace wins. And just for that dumb reasoning about why the Council sended Obi-Wan to kill Grievous. It was a trap for Sidious. Yoda went to Kashyyyk because he would be the one the Dark Lord would fear. Obi-Wan was sended to take out Grievous because of two reasons:

1.) They needed somebody with a very defensive fighting style to fight somebody who could use 4 lightsabers at once and enough force powers

2.) Mace had to stay on Coruscant (being second in command) and Anakin had to stay on Coruscant because he should keep an eye on Palpatine.

And for gods sake: Mace already defeated GG before Obi-Wan went to fight him (LOE), and Yoda clearly said that he would be the only other Jedi able to defeat Dooku (DR) and we saw that he was the only Jedi (except Yoda himself) who was able to survive a fight with Sidious. Obi-Wan is getting owned here.

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Originally posted by Arbiter
Sidious also didn't use the force like Dooku did and Yoda knew they had 1 shot to kill Sidious and he didn't want to take any chances
The council decides when someone becomes a Jedi Knight and Obi-Wan killed a Sith so he skipped the trials
How if form VII better then form III? Form III makes it so he has no areas unprotected
Dooku is far suprieor in the force then Obi-Wan and that's not his fault. He can't decide how many midicorlians (Misspelled isn't it) he has. And Obi-Wan was in his 30s or 40s and Dooku was like in his 80s making him far more exp.
Form III leaves no body part exposed to an attack
And Sidious had nothing to due with Obi-Wan going to kill Grievous. Sidious didn't brainwash the Jedi and had Yoda go away and they vote for Obi-Wan. Plus Mace Windu has high respect for Obi-Wan because of all that he had done since before TPM.