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Stop trollin'. I already said that Bob DID dodge a bullet after I went to turn the game on to check for sure, so...

and i said:
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the moment you prove them wrong they try to say stuff like "that wasn't dodging bullets but evading bullets"

nothing trolling about that. it's simple english and is giving an example of the type of unbelievable-level-of-denial things you're likely to say when you're (ultimately and like always) called out for your unbased and biased claims.

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and i said:

nothing trolling about that. it's simple english and is giving an example of the type of unbelievable-level-of-denial things you're likely to say when you're (ultimately and like always) called out for your unbased and biased claims.

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You are trollin', you said some lame ass, stupid, unneeded shit about me that contributed in no way to the thread even after I admitted I was wrong. How in the hell did I do any of what you just said? Your trollin', lookin' for a fight cuz your still butt hurt over your ban. You got the nerve to call cats "biased" when 90% of this forum will agree that you are just one bitter ass, hatin' ass troll wit some terrible KMC game versus hang ups. Let it go and move on.

Also, there are ways to out a sock without even havein' to do a sock check. You can "work" in a damn cave for all I care. You wanna test it? Let's have a lil fun...


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Originally posted by SamZED
Yes you did put words in my mouth, you said that I said that it somehow proves that Jin > Akuma and didn't even mention the name until you brought it up, it just proves youve got issues. Seriously I was trying to be as polite as possible and even wanted to make peace with you but you had to talk nonsense about me making up feats. And that's after you ignored Bob's feats where he dodged bullets, you ignored Feng Wei's feats and you SAID that Ryu lifting a boulder is more imressive than anything any Tekken char has done and after statements like that you shouldnt be allowed anywhere near SF vs threads because of how biased you clearly are. My logic is pretty simple and its not A>B>C. It's just you're so desperate to prove that Ryu can beat Jin you grabbed one feat from a game that Jin didn't perform because he never had to and hope that it somehow proves that Ryu is better because (yay for him) he dodged bullets in the movie (big frikkin deal) even though Jin never had problems beating characters who have bullet dodging speed and even though Jin's overall kicks and punches are more impressive that Ryu's. By your logic - Bob is much MUCH faster than Ken and will beat him easilly because Ken doesnt have bulletdodging feats. And never mind that he's as fast as Ryu, as long as he didnt dodge a bullet in a video, he can't even beat Nina Williams. That's YOUR logic, not mine. Are you so desperate you have to grab onto Ryu dodging a bullet in a MOVIE (not even game) in attempt to prove that he can beat anyone who never had to do that even if his overall abilities are as impressive and some more impressive than Ryu's? And you believe that Ryu dodging a bullet will somehow be the determining factor in a world where even 15 year old chicks can dodge bullets? Seriously? Here's an idea. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing because you like one character over another and look at them logically without ignoring feats and after dealing with your issues and after dealing with your urge to prove that SF > everything.
Jin can AT LEAST stalemate Ryu h2h going by his durability, fighting skills and power and the the list of characters he's already defeated.
Devil Jin stomps Ryu. You got nothing to counter that with.


1. So what was the point of bringin' up Ogre, as if you did it would really matter? You seem to be missin' my point entirely and takin' this shit way outta control. Not gonna go into that any further cuz you don't seem to understand what your doin'.

2. You keep sayin' I ignored Bob's feats when I clearly went back and said you were right. What the hell does Bob have to do wit this thread? Are you from a country where english is not dominant, seriously? If you are then I could see that there may be some simple communication errors between us.

3. Feng Wei IS NOT JIN, what the hell is wrong with you? Why do you keep talkin' about this guy? And the endin' with the boulder is not only non canon, it's "what if" endin with him usin' a power he has yet to gain.

4. I'm biased yet you only bring up feats from other characters that ARE NOT JIN in his defense cuz your are desperate for a Jin win. At least I'm ONLY TALKIN' ABOUT WHAT RYU HAS DONE. In fact, I didn't even start this, you quoted me 1st. I cared very little about you and Sado's opinion, I just stated my own and you felt the need to tell me I'm wrong. Who is really biased here? You seem to wanna argue with everyone who thinks Ryu will win.

5. Can you read? Capcom has stated that Ryu can dodge bullets, they said this WAAAAAAYYYY back in the SFII days. They also said that that movie is how the characters fight outside of gameplay. You sayin' your usin' my logic but your just doin' a silly parody of your own and sayin' it's mine. And that's not cool and filled with fail. Your takin' EVERYONE ELSES' FEATS AND APPLYING THEM TO JIN BASED ON STORY BATTLES despite the fact that Jin has not shown he is capable of the same feats and no one who had these feats used them in battle against him.

6. Turn the fanboi metter down, sit back and listen to what I'm tellin you. I don't even care if what you say about everyone else is true cuz it's clear your just pullin' shit outta your ass. "15 year old chicks" ARE NOT JIN.

Bob
Jack-6
Leo
Miguel
Zafina
Azazel
NANCY-MI847J
Alisa
Lars
Anna
Armor King
Asuka
Baek
Bruce
Bryan Fury
Christie
Craig Marduk
D.Jin
Eddy Gordo
Feng Wei
Ganryu
Heihachi
Hwoarang
Julia
Kaz
King
Kuma
Lee Chaolan
Lei
Lili
Xiaoyu
Law
Mokujin
Nina
Panda
Paul
Raven
Roger Jr.
Sergei
Steve Fox
Wang
Yoshimitsu

None of these characters are Jin, what these charcters do should never come up in a VS thread where they are not present. You say I'm arguin' for the sake of arguin' but not a single post you make pretains to just Jin and what he can do alone. You are desperate for your favorite charcter to win and will do whatever it takes, even if it means stealin' from other characters to make Jin look decent. That's BS and what is sad is that you don't even seem realize it. All you do is speak on feats from other characters and make baseless claims.


And now I'm done, anything else you say will be undoubtedly ignored. So don't bother. Cuz I aint readin' the shit. I barely wanna read my own shit, just wanted to get my last word in.


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You are trollin', you said some lame ass, stupid, unneeded shit about me that contributed in no way to the thread even after I admitted I was wrong.

speaking of butthurt laughing out loud
look, dude, you don't have to admit that you're wrong when it's painfully obvious to anyone with half-a-brain-cell that you've been whooped. i was asking you to admit you've been pwned...i was just pwning you.

bullet time that in your head, bub smile

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How in the hell did I do any of what you just said?

your posts with SamZED, as he already showed you, are all biased and unbased in their claims. you flat out said that no one in tekkenverse can rival Ryu lifting that boulder and i showed you an entire vid of jinpachi not only holding it up for 50 years throwing it aside like it was nothing.
THAT is what pwnage is supposed to be all about...you don't even know what hit you. in your case, you STILL don't know it laughing out loud

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Your trollin', lookin' for a fight cuz your still butt hurt over your ban.

i've been away for almost a year now. if i was butthurt i'd be back the next day. like i said, i work in PC shop...there's no holding me back. i've been busy with this thing that people who don't get butt-hurt cuz their fav character is in a fight he's going down hard in: it's called a life.

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You got the nerve to call cats "biased" when 90% of this forum will agree that you are just one bitter ass, hatin' ass troll wit some terrible KMC game versus hang ups. Let it go and move on.

90% of this forum won't agree with shite. the only people who would is you, DSZ, ShinRemy, Trickster, remulus and V2D............and in case you didn't realize that's the entire SF-fanatic pack right there. me, i already said before, i like ryu. i hate his fanboys who make him do shite he can't do. heck, i was excited as any other guy when SF4 was announced....it was shite, that's one thing, but still I was happy when i got to play it.

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Also, there are ways to out a sock without even havein' to do a sock check. You can "work" in a damn cave for all I care. You wanna test it? Let's have a lil fun...

relax, kiddo. don't be calling me butt-hurt and then massage your own kiester. it kills the point.
I've already said many times, you kids take this shite way too seriously. I-Drop hates and rages on terry bogard all night. you don't see me crying about it do you?


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Ya'know, I'm not gonna waste my time with a sock whose soul purpose is to troll his past "enemies". If I continue to feed you, you'll never go away, no wonder why I am the only person still talkin' to you.

Ignore list...again. *sigh*


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Ryu is gonna lose to Jin. His only chance is if he goes Evil but Devil Jin showed more power than that.

Beating Azazel is more impressive than lifting a huge boulder with an old guy on top.


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Yea, that manga was pretty cool. My favorite part has to be when Akuma ran Ryu through wit his hand. I seriously did not think he was gonna make it on his own. I though Ken and Sean were gonna have to jump in.


I think I posted a scan of that on another site a while back, I'll C if I can find it. Hasn't this thread been done B4?

I do agree that normal Ryu will win this battle, tho, even against Devil Jin. He stalemated the Iland smashing Gouki and can wield all the Psycho power N the world. He was going 2 Bcome the battery 4 the Psycho Drive and that WMD can vaporize cities. All of these things happened win Ryu was just a young man so there is no telling what Ryu can really do by the time of SF3 win he is even stronger than Akuma was win they fought back then. Then U wood also have to Nclude Ryu's training with Oro which will boost his powers even greater and possibly Byond even Shin Gouki. I also have a feeling that Ryu is also going2 show sum very uber powers N SSF4. He already destroyed the S.I.N HQ at the end of SF4.

Stalemating a warrior who can smash Ilands N a prequel game is a much better feat than anything Jin has done. Or come up against.

1 more thing, can U make me a Talbain "Akshin" signature?


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Ya'know, I'm not gonna waste my time with a sock whose soul purpose is to troll his past "enemies". If I continue to feed you, you'll never go away, no wonder why I am the only person still talkin' to you.
Ignore list...again. *sigh*

laughing out loud
at least answer to SamZED then, boy butthurt.


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Yea, that manga was pretty cool. My favorite part has to be when Akuma ran Ryu through wit his hand. I seriously did not think he was gonna make it on his own. I though Ken and Sean were gonna have to jump in.

Here I found it!

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2 awesome 4 words! The scar he got at the end was epic, 2. Of ourse U'R not a Ryu fan like me so I'm sure U don't understand the awesomeness N it all. U'R prolly just glad Gouki punched a hole N him.


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Here I found it!

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2 awesome 4 words! The scar he got at the end was epic, 2. Of ourse U'R not a Ryu fan like me so I'm sure U don't understand the awesomeness N it all. U'R prolly just glad Gouki punched a hole N him.


Man. that was so cool, Ryu pulled off some risky slick shit wit lettin' Akuma do that shit to'im. And I thought the sacr was cool, too. You know damn well Alex aint gonna win that fight at the end of the manga after you read this shit.

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Beating Azazel is more impressive than lifting a huge boulder with an old guy on top.


Yes, cuz beatin' people is a feat and there are no such things as writers, stories, plot devices, CIS, PIS, and jobbers...

FYI, Ryu was lifting a huge boulder with an old guy on top...who was lifting another boulder...


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FYI, Ryu was lifting a huge boulder with an old guy on top...who was lifting another boulder...

ryu was lifting a boulder. what Oro was lifting is called a rock...not a boulder.


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1. So what was the point of bringin' up Ogre, as if you did it would really matter? You seem to be missin' my point entirely and takin' this shit way outta control. Not gonna go into that any further cuz you don't seem to understand what your doin'.

2. You keep sayin' I ignored Bob's feats when I clearly went back and said you were right. What the hell does Bob have to do wit this thread? Are you from a country where english is not dominant, seriously? If you are then I could see that there may be some simple communication errors between us.

3. Feng Wei IS NOT JIN, what the hell is wrong with you? Why do you keep talkin' about this guy? And the endin' with the boulder is not only non canon, it's "what if" endin with him usin' a power he has yet to gain.

4. I'm biased yet you only bring up feats from other characters that ARE NOT JIN in his defense cuz your are desperate for a Jin win. At least I'm ONLY TALKIN' ABOUT WHAT RYU HAS DONE. In fact, I didn't even start this, you quoted me 1st. I cared very little about you and Sado's opinion, I just stated my own and you felt the need to tell me I'm wrong. Who is really biased here? You seem to wanna argue with everyone who thinks Ryu will win.

5. Can you read? Capcom has stated that Ryu can dodge bullets, they said this WAAAAAAYYYY back in the SFII days. They also said that that movie is how the characters fight outside of gameplay. You sayin' your usin' my logic but your just doin' a silly parody of your own and sayin' it's mine. And that's not cool and filled with fail. Your takin' EVERYONE ELSES' FEATS AND APPLYING THEM TO JIN BASED ON STORY BATTLES despite the fact that Jin has not shown he is capable of the same feats and no one who had these feats used them in battle against him.

6. Turn the fanboi metter down, sit back and listen to what I'm tellin you. I don't even care if what you say about everyone else is true cuz it's clear your just pullin' shit outta your ass. "15 year old chicks" ARE NOT JIN.

Bob
Jack-6
Leo
Miguel
Zafina
Azazel
NANCY-MI847J
Alisa
Lars
Anna
Armor King
Asuka
Baek
Bruce
Bryan Fury
Christie
Craig Marduk
D.Jin
Eddy Gordo
Feng Wei
Ganryu
Heihachi
Hwoarang
Julia
Kaz
King
Kuma
Lee Chaolan
Lei
Lili
Xiaoyu
Law
Mokujin
Nina
Panda
Paul
Raven
Roger Jr.
Sergei
Steve Fox
Wang
Yoshimitsu

None of these characters are Jin, what these charcters do should never come up in a VS thread where they are not present. You say I'm arguin' for the sake of arguin' but not a single post you make pretains to just Jin and what he can do alone. You are desperate for your favorite charcter to win and will do whatever it takes, even if it means stealin' from other characters to make Jin look decent. That's BS and what is sad is that you don't even seem realize it. All you do is speak on feats from other characters and make baseless claims.


And now I'm done, anything else you say will be undoubtedly ignored. So don't bother. Cuz I aint readin' the shit. I barely wanna read my own shit, just wanted to get my last word in.
You keep spitting nonsense and then act irratated, that's brilliant, read or dont I could care less, but since you write crap about things you know nothing about im gonna keep proving you wrong. 1) You dont understand my posts, your problem alone, not mine.
2) Now you're just being a dick insulting my language, again you clearly got issues. And Bob is not the only feat you tried to ignore and tried (as in failed) to downplay. Just proves you dont know how to debate.
3) Im talking about Feng Wei because this is another feat you tried to ignore, has NOTHING to do with Jin. But it is canon wheather you like it or not. If you're gonna keep insisting that it isnt feel free to post proofs because nothing in that video controdicts the story.
4) You are biased. You said that Ryu lifting some stupid boulder is more impressive than anything "ANY" tekken character has done, that's why I brough several feats of MANY characters to prove you wrong. You made a claim, I proved you wrong, so now you're bitching about me bringing other character's feats when you're the one who made me do it.
5)what frikkin ever I know Ryu can dodge bullets. Yay for him. Except being able to dodge bullets means JACK. How you think that it means that he wins this is beyond me or beyond anyone really.
6) You can copy names from Wiki. Yay for you. And they dont need to be Jin, I brough other characters up because you pretty much asked me to do that so stop bitching about it.

I'll ask again, prove that you're not just pulling crap outta your ass and name ONE feat that I made up. ONE. Please. You said that i made up feats. So go ahead name one feat that I "made up".

And last thing, like it or not Jin has beaten people with bulletdodging speed many times, so it in no way helps your argument and there's nothing wrong with me bringing that up. When debating you should go by OVERALL character's abilities and SHOWINGS instead of desperately sticking to ONE stupid bullet dodging feat hoping that itd somehow help your case. Ryu's dodged bullets. Yay for him. Has Ken dodged bullets? Has Sagat? Akuma? Well Bob did dodge bullets and by YOUR OWN STUPID LOGIC it means that fatass Bob is faster than Akuma and can beat him. roll eyes (sarcastic) Or HOW ABOUT you stop being such a fanboy and listen to facts and go by overall character's abilities instead? Jin has beaten people with Ryu's and greater level of speed. Fact. so its not a problem and in no way a determining factor. Jin displayed MORE impressive kicks and punches. Fact. Displayed great stamina and durability easilly on Ryu's level. Fact. This alone should be more than enough for anyone (except SF fanboys) to say that he can AT LEAST stalemate Ryu in h2h. Deal with it.
As for Devil Jin, Ryu got nothing to put against Devil's tk and forcefield and you didn't even try to give ONE scenario of how he stands a chance. And you never will because there's just no way he stands a chance. So again.
h2h - stalemate.
All out with Ryu's projectiles and Jin's devil gene - Devil Jin wtfstomps.

Im sorry it shatters your fanboy dream, dont like it, dont reply, id really prefere if you did not, cause I have better things than arguing a through and through biased fanboy, and I swear you wont hear a word from me if you yourself stop posting nonsense. "Ryu has dodged bullets, its more impressive than anything any tekken character can do so Ryu wins".. Dear God...


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Sam, give the guy a break. the pwnage you're giving him has "no end in sight" wink
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For those that Ryu only because he has the Hadoken technique, Jin has dfeated opponents that have energy techniques before (True Ogre from Tekken 3, and Azazel from Tekken 6). I personally give this battle a stalemate.

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The only way it would be a stalemate is if Jin was in Devil Mode... probably.


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I wonder if that influenced the design of Evil Ryu's hole.

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That's what I was thinking. I read on the SF wiki that the version of him that appears N SSF4 might B a "Nightmare" Evil Version. Another "what if', like SFA3.


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Shame because I'd love to see what Evil Ryu can do. Meh


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