What you mean and? Most of this thread concerns Wolveriine and shatterstar avoding traps not engaging in H2H, so it involves them piiting their wits against Crossbones wits, this is why he has a weeks prep.
Im not saying their dumb im just saying their not tactically smarter than Cap, if Crosbones prep is enough to almost kill Cap its going to cause Shatterstar and Wolverine problems.
They are not alot faster than Cap thats absolute nonsense, they are however more durable and have HFs. Despite the fcat they have HFs Wolverine still got taken out by Misters Xs guards which used conventional weapons. Explosiives that are powerful enough can take out both of them.
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Yes it does actually. If you lose to a character but you almoist beat them it porves you are dangerous, if you get totally curbstomped that means your wimp.
Yeah thats right. Thats why Crossbones was hired to kill the Kingpin and not Taskmaster or Deadpool.
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Yes it does. I gave you my explanation im not going to explain it again. Obvoulsy your are not listening.
In terms of prep it could be argued that he as good. Hes also been humilated by Daredevil. Crossbones could defintely give DD a good fight considering the fact that he has gone toe-to toe with Bullseye.
Can you prove that? Hell Crossbones organised a team to fight the Hellfire Club and has managed to rescue Red Skull from Magneto. Crossbones is one of Red Skulls favourite henchmen not Taskmaster or Deadpool.
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Trapped? He had a gun the door was open. He attacked Logan with out warning and got put down from a single punch.
First of all niether of them fight like capt or have similar strategies. Cross bones information on them is also extremely limited unlike capt.
also if cross bones can't take capt the majority with prep how the hell is he beat shatter star and wolverine togather? He not. Hell he aint beating Logan period.
Also capt does not have a healing factor on the level of either of these characters.
yes, but again this is not capt were talking about and abc logic is faulty.
aleast some wins? You mean one win if he got extremely lucky would be more correct. Logan is capt plus and far more prone to killing.
actaully it not. Not to mention both characters have inhumane senses well beyond that of capt meaning they could effortless discern were every trap was.
Oh and shatter star grow up on a game show were he was sent into planets that were rigged with traps ever were.
cross bones aint shit next to that.
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He wasent taken out by mister x body guards...........he beat them all actaully. Hell they even go "nothing that we do even slows him, knifes, bombs and guns are useless" or something of that effect.
war machines technology>>>>>>>>>>>cross bones.
Hell war machine period>>>>>>>cross bones.
[QUOTE=10035492]Originally posted by Alfheim im pretty sure Crossbones can come up with a trap that can cause Shatterstar problems. Hell Shatterstar may have a HF but hes not immune to posion gas. [/QUOTE
actaully he is for the most part and it due to were he was raised.
LOL yes he was trapped. He was in a cell with Daredevil and Wolverine and even if he manages to get past them which is very unlikely he has to get through the whole shield base. Trapped.
H2H skills dont really matter in this thread its smarts and neither of them are smarter than Cap.
Doesnt matter he can adapt his equipment to deal with there HF. Hell im pretty sure powerful acid could melt the flesh off Wolvernes bones.
No because this is more of a tactical thread smarts is the most importanat aspect not H2H. Im just saying if it came H2H he could at least give Shatterstar trouble.
As far as im concerned Cap can beat Wolverine, when I start collecting comics i'll probaly be able to pint out Wolverine isnt always an MA genuis.
LOL yeah because Crossbones isnt smart enough to adapt his traps to do that.
Shatterstar is not tactically smarter than Cap, so that dont mean a damn thing.
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So how did he manage to get captured wasnt it a combination of all the damage he had taken? Im getting different stories
All War Machine did was use a machine gun that fired rubber bullets. Crossbones can do that.
Wolverine isnt immune to drugs why the hell would Shatterstar be. Deadpool has taken out Wolverine via this method before
No its not Crossbone sets a trap for Captain America and Cap has to spend a good while thinking what hes going to do next. Anything that makes Cap stop and think has to be dangerous. Its in one of Crossbones earlier appearances as far as I can remember Cap 363-364
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A] Shatterstar is smarter with science and technology than Kitty Pride [Star' is a time traveller from an alternate dimension 100 years into our future] In Fabian Nicieza's X-force he is shown performing a diagnostic of Cables/Apocalypses sentient computer, he is also shown reprogramming armaments and vehicles from the 30th Century in readiness for an Assault against the Immortal Mutant Group 'The Externals'
Shatterstars long time sparring parter is Warpath/Rictor now considering one has the stats of Juggernaught minus Juggy HF but can outrun a ferrari on a race track...
and the other harnesses the power of an earthquake...
and when it comes to booby traps in a dark room
His vision is in the same class as Beast Feral Warpath
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Shatterstar practices a martial art which extends his chi like tendrils to read his surroundings
And how does that change the fact he attacked Logan and got wtf knocked out.
Again capt not in this thread and trapping capt is not the same as trapping wolverine or shatter star.
Ya a powerful acid which Logan would smell a mile away lol.
That’s because you’re a fanboy. Lol you don’t read comics or collect them go figure.
He not nor does he have the resouces/ Plus theres not a whole lot he could do to hide the traps.
Stop with your god dam capt cock loving.
You don’t need to be better then capt at tactics to deal with traps. Shatter star grow up dealing with such traps all his live cross bones traps are no different.
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He dident get captured………….he made it all the way to mister x.
Rubber bullets arnt even able to phaze shatter star.
Alfheim just fails to realize the plain and simple truth, that Crossbones completely and utterly fails.
If he couldn't kill Captain America with prep, how on earth is he going to kill Wolverine? Wolverine heals a million times faster, has even more experience, can detect any traps and is about as skilled...
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