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batdude123
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Whether or not Thor can damage the armor.


Ah.

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Your right, but the disrespect is unnecessary. Would you not do the same if you felt Batman was being underestimated?


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Yeah Thor loses, but meh.....


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So basically it's turned to another Superman vs Thor debate.

"If Superman makes a smudge..then Thor makes a scratch!"

Thor has his nice feats..nobody is denying that...but so do Superman, DD, and Darkseid..all who failed to damage the armor in any way at all.


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So in other words...your hate of OWAW is blinding you.

Like Thor could do any more damage than Superman, Darkseid, or Doomsday.

The armor hasn't been shown to be damaged. Period.

You defend Sentry saying he has a good amount of high points compared to his negative...but this armor that has NO low showings gets speculation on Thors behalf?

Ridiculous.

And there is a reason Entropy is Entropy... Thor is dead. Period. With a wave of his hand DD was turned to slag...and Thors durability is nowhere near DD.


I do think the Godblast, his ultimate attack would do more damage than most anything Superman or DD could put out, not gonna say Darky tho.

And the only reason why this started, was because i thought i remembered Superman doing minimal damage to the Aegis, to which you said you don't see any such thing, but if it did, it's no low feat.

And then you basically implied Thor couldn't replicate even a minimal amount of damage, even if Superman did.

And i don't defend Sentry.

My stance on Sentry is that his implied power from his conception suggests that he's on a level above the conventional top tier(of which Superman is included, even if he is at the pinnacle), and his absence of low feats don't hurt his standing either.

Debunked.

And Entropic Energy is Entropic Energy..........

Unless Superman takes Entropy eyebeams to the face and only goes "arghh", amirite?

It's the ultimate energy null unless Superman takes multiple blasts and doesn't rip his costume.........

bioauras>entropy?

And i maintain that energy blast absorbtion is something Thor does extremely well.

He doesn't need to worry about durability if the magical plot device absorbs it.


And lol at TrickstersPriest getting at me.

I debunked you long ago buddy.


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I do think the Godblast, his ultimate attack would do more damage than most anything Superman or DD could put out, not gonna say Darky tho.

And the only reason why this started, was because i thought i remembered Superman doing minimal damage to the Aegis, to which you said you don't see any such thing, but if it did, it's no low feat.

And then you basically implied Thor couldn't replicate even a minimal amount of damage, even if Superman did.

And i don't defend Sentry.

My stance on Sentry is that his implied power from his conception suggests that he's on a level above the conventional top tier(of which Superman is included, even if he is at the pinnacle), and his absence of low feats don't hurt his standing either.

Debunked.

And Entropic Energy is Entropic Energy..........

Unless Superman takes Entropy eyebeams to the face and only goes "arghh", amirite?

It's the ultimate energy null unless Superman takes multiple blasts and doesn't rip his costume.........

bioauras>entropy?

And i maintain that energy blast absorbtion is something Thor does extremely well.

He doesn't need to worry about durability if the magical plot device absorbs it.


And lol at TrickstersPriest getting at me.

I debunked you long ago buddy.


I have actual credibility most of the time. You on the other hand, are proving you are an idiot. Superman gets the nod from DC's writers alot, but even he could barely damage the armor. 2nd, the hammer CAN'T absorb Entropy, and Thor would get ass-raped if he tried to fight that thing. Godblast might do damage, (which I doubt), but it won't do anything major and it definitely won't stop the armor.

and Superman>>>Sentry.


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I have actual credibility most of the time.


I stopped reading after this sentence.


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I have actual credibility most of the time.


You do? Coulda fooled me.

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I stopped reading after this sentence.
Me too...
I thought of writing something...
But, this will do.
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You do? Coulda fooled me.


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I have actual credibility most of the time. You on the other hand, are proving you are an idiot. Superman gets the nod from DC's writers alot, but even he could barely damage the armor. 2nd, the hammer CAN'T absorb Entropy, and Thor would get ass-raped if he tried to fight that thing. Godblast might do damage, (which I doubt), but it won't do anything major and it definitely won't stop the armor.

and Superman>>>Sentry.


If Superman can take entropy eyeblasts to the face and only say ouch, why wouldn't the hammer be able to absorb the energy?

And are people forgetting that the Aegis is really just a destroyed probe that was turned into armor?

It's not Imperiex himself.

And i haven't seen anything from the godblast that implies it would fizzle against the Aegis.

It's quite the high end attack, nah mean?

Mind you, i still think Thor would lose against the Aegis, but the blatant underrating of a beast like Thor is annoying.

It's not Thunderstrike we're talking here.

Superman =/= Sentry, since Sentry has no low feats.

I'd rather not open that can of worms right now.


And lol at you saying Superman barely did any damage to the armor at all, but then say later that you doubt the godblast would register.

Shenanigans.


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Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
So basically it's turned to another Superman vs Thor debate.

"If Superman makes a smudge..then Thor makes a scratch!"

Thor has his nice feats..nobody is denying that...but so do Superman, DD, and Darkseid..all who failed to damage the armor in any way at all.
No this hasn't.

The only thing said is that when it comes too straight up damage few if any in the top-tier can match him which includes Superman or Doomsday which people are bringing up.

The point is just because those two failed doesn't mean Thor would because he has a higher damage output then them.

As for DS well his ability to do damage is kind off some times. Sometimes it looks like he can destroy anything while other times he gets punked. stick out tongue


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No this hasn't.

The only thing said is that when it comes too straight up damage few if any in the top-tier can match him which includes Superman or Doomsday which people are bringing up.

The point is just because those two failed doesn't mean Thor would because he has a higher damage output then them.

As for DS well his ability to do damage is kind off some times. Sometimes it looks like he can destroy anything while other times he gets punked. stick out tongue


Thor has higher dmg output than who? He may be more versatile. But THor's Dmg Output is not nearly as high as Doomsday's, who was able to stalemate a guardian. It's not as high as Orion's. Who is able to fight DS hand to hand for week's on end and blast away galaxies. And it sure ain't as high as Superman's. Superman's splits planets with his fist. Thor would have to call upon every ounce of Godly power to do that. And he's slow on the uptake. Where as Superman just hits something in anger and flies away not tired at all. Try again.


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Thor has higher dmg output than who? He may be more versatile. But THor's Dmg Output is not nearly as high as Doomsday's, who was able to stalemate a guardian. It's not as high as Orion's. Who is able to fight DS hand to hand for week's on end and blast away galaxies. And it sure ain't as high as Superman's. Superman's splits planets with his fist. Thor would have to call upon every ounce of Godly power to do that. And he's slow on the uptake. Where as Superman just hits something in anger and flies away not tired at all. Try again.
Thor uis greater than those guys.

Thor hurts Skyfathers

He crack's Celestial Body Armor

His blows can destroy planets

The Godblast drove off Galactus

He has hust and beaten the Midgard Serpent

Even without his hammer he was still able to put down Durok


The guy's ability to dish out punishment is far greater than Superman or Doomsday.


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I disagree. Superman has feats easily in that range with his fists.


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I disagree. Superman has feats easily in that range with his fists.
Except I doubt Superman is driving off Galactus wink


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Thor has higher dmg output than who? He may be more versatile. But THor's Dmg Output is not nearly as high as Doomsday's, who was able to stalemate a guardian. It's not as high as Orion's. Who is able to fight DS hand to hand for week's on end and blast away galaxies. And it sure ain't as high as Superman's. Superman's splits planets with his fist. Thor would have to call upon every ounce of Godly power to do that. And he's slow on the uptake. Where as Superman just hits something in anger and flies away not tired at all. Try again.


When did Orion blast away galaxies?

And when has Superman split a planet with his fist? Not surprised he could do it, but just wondering when he's done so.

And BRB split a planet in Stormbreaker, and it didn't take everything he had.

BRB = Thor.

And i'd wager that the godblast trumps anything Superman or DD have by a decent margin.


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I disagree. Superman has feats easily in that range with his fists.


You think Superman could drive off Galactus or damage a celestial with his fists?

Everything else is fairgame imo,(except the skyfather stuff) but you think he can affect cosmic gods with his fists?


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Except I doubt Superman is driving off Galactus wink
No, he just punched Imperiex into pieces instead. I believe invisible woman chased off Galactus once too, are you going to make a case for her having higher damage output than Superman? Part of the problem with Galactus is that he has these high end showings blowing up a solar system or something, and then a team of guys that couldn't even get decent numbers against Wonder Woman chase him off. Hardly seems credible.


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And BRB split a planet in Stormbreaker, and it didn't take everything he had.

BRB = Thor.

And i'd wager that the godblast trumps anything Superman or DD have by a decent margin.
I believe Bill is higher than Thor, particularly when it comes to physical. Even before he got his hammer he was a bone-crusher.


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No, he just punched Imperiex into pieces instead. I believe invisible woman chased off Galactus once too, are you going to make a case for her having higher damage output than Superman? Part of the problem with Galactus is that he has these high end showings blowing up a solar system or something, and then a team of guys that couldn't even get decent numbers against Wonder Woman chase him off.
Thats because they have Reed and Reed with prep probably kills the JLA stick out tongue


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Thats because they have Reed and Reed with prep probably kills the JLA stick out tongue
Why not? MC2 Reed chased off The Living Tribunal.


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Why not? MC2 Reed chased off The Living Tribunal.
Exactly and Reed just happens to have devices in his lab that destroy small moons laying around stick out tongue


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