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Mr Master
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Originally posted by Galan007
Not really.

Beings have resisted nullification in Marvel.

Only One being has, (Fury) and we know that Jaspers could cause Merlyn said so.

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Originally posted by Galan007
But nothing has resisted Entropy in DC, [thats the whole point behind it].

DC's problem.

This fight ins't in DC is it?

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Originally posted by Galan007
They might be able to resist Marvel's version of nullification.

But there is no evidence that anything can resist DC's Entropy, [which is why I refuse to call them equals].

I'm sorry yall don't have Fury and Jaspers. smile

When someone shows me DC's Entropy rift
doing something more than erasing Time & Space, I'll agree.

Basically I need to be presented with proof of DC's Entropy rift,
erasing Un-Reality or "Nothingness in the absolute sense" ...

Cause I'll admit even the CN/Un can't erase what has already been erased completely.

Just how this DC Entropy can accomplish that is worth the wait.

Post away fellas.

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Only One being has, (Fury) and we know that Jaspers could cause Merlyn said so.

DC's problem.

This fight ins't in DC is it?

I'm sorry yall don't have Fury and Jaspers.

When someone shows me DC's Entropy rift
doing something more than erasing Time & Space, I'll agree.

Basically I need to be presented with proof of DC's Entropy rift,
erasing Un-Reality or "Nothingness in the absolute sense" ...

Cause I'll admit even the CN/Un can't erase what has already been erased completely.

Just how this DC Entropy can accomplish that is worth the wait.

Post away fellas.

Huh?

DC has made it perfectly clear ANY time we've seen Entropy that "nothing can possibly survive it".... And nothing has.

Yet you say it's the same as nullification in Marvel, even though something has survived that force?

Okay. smile

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Only One being has, (Fury) and we know that Jaspers could cause Merlyn said so.

DC's problem.

This fight ins't in DC is it?

I'm sorry yall don't have Fury and Jaspers.

When someone shows me DC's Entropy rift
doing something more than erasing Time & Space, I'll agree.

Basically I need to be presented with proof of DC's Entropy rift,
erasing Un-Reality or "Nothingness in the absolute sense" ...

Cause I'll admit even the CN/Un can't erase what has already been erased completely.

Just how this DC Entropy can accomplish that is worth the wait.

Post away fellas.

for this one, i will, actually post some references. But let it be known, that DC's entropy is teh uber. Krona is an Agent of DC's entropy. And Look how powerful he is. Also gonna find the stuff on entropy from the monitors and cosmic oddessy. Be back soon. big grin

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Originally posted by Galan007
Huh?

DC has made it perfectly clear ANY time we've seen Entropy that "nothing can possibly survive it".... And nothing has.

Yet you say it's the same as nullification in Marvel, even though something has survived this force?

Okay.[/B]

Huh?

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Basically I need to be presented with proof of DC's Entropy rift,
erasing Un-Reality or "Nothingness in the absolute sense" ...

Cause I'll admit even the CN/Un can't erase what has already been erased completely.

Just how this DC Entropy can accomplish that is worth the wait.

You say they're different, DC's is more destructive.

So show me this Entropy rift erasing Un-Reality (Nothingness)

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Originally posted by Mr Master
Huh?

You say they're different, DC's is more destructive.

So show me this Entropy rift erasing Un-Reality (Nothingness)

There is no un-reality in DC. for this they have the antimatter verse. DC has made it clear that entropy kills all. Hell, Krona was punished for releasing it upon the universe. It's release took a billion years off of the life of the universe, and split the Universe into the Matter multiverse, and the Antimatter universe. And that was just a spark of entropy released.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
You say they're different, DC's is more destructive.

So show me this Entropy rift erasing Un-Reality (Nothingness)

It is more destructive.

Why?

Because as stated numerous times now, nothing has ever survived DC's Entropy.

While Marvel's nullification has proven unsuccessful. smile

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Originally posted by Galan007
It is more destructive.

Your opinion, you're entitled.

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Originally posted by Galan007
Why?

Because as stated numerous times now, nothing has ever survived DC's Entropy.

While Marvel's nullification has proven unsuccessful.

What about,

Jaspers and Fury are invulnarable enough to resist Entropy = nullification of Space/Time.

Marvel's nullification has proven very successful,
still waiting to see what entire Universe survives the CN's power.

Let me know where this happened.

In Marvel, ONLY the Fury has been able to resist nullification, and Jaspers could.

Does this mean the CN or UN are any weaker?

No. Entire Universe are erased into absolute nothingness.

It means that Fury and Jaspers are durable enough to survive it, nothing more.

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Originally posted by Mr Master
In Marvel, ONLY the Fury has been able to resist nullification, and Jaspers could.

Does this mean the CN or UN are any weaker?

No. Entire Universe are erased into absolute nothingness.

It means that Fury and Jaspers are durable enough to survive it, nothing more.

Yes it does, because Marvel defeated the whole concept behind nullification in that issue.

While nothing has survived entropy.

Universes, timelines, uber powerful beings, have all been snuffed out.

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Originally posted by Galan007
Yes it does, because Marvel defeated the whole concept behind nullification in that issue.

if you say so.

According to Marvel, the CN and UN Erase/Nullifies anything it touches.

With the exception of Fury & Jaspers 616.

But now they're one, so it's only One cat that can survive nullification, Jaspers/Fury.

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While nothing has survived entropy.

Nothing has ever survived Marvel's Entropy either.

Well with that ONE exception.

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Originally posted by Galan007
Universes, timelines, uber powerful beings, have all been snuffed out. [/B]

Has it ever been used on a DC cat (like Merlyn) that's >>> ALL of DC? (Marvel)

Actually, has it ever been used on a cat (like Jaspers) that's,

? (Merlyn) >>> All of DC (Marvel Omniverse)

Cat (Jaspers) >>> ? (Merlyn)

meaning the ? (Merlyn) is already >>> All of DC (Marvel Omniverse)

but now we have the Cat (Jaspers) who's >>> ? (Merlyn)

.....................................................................................

In other words,

what uber being was erased by DC's Entropy rift?

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Originally posted by Mr Master
if you say so.

According to Marvel, the CN and UN Erase/Nullifies anything it touches.

With the exception of Fury & Jaspers 616.

But now they're one, so it's only One cat that can survive nullification, Jaspers/Fury.

Nothing has ever survived Marvel's Entropy either.

Well with that ONE exception.

Has it ever been used on a DC cat (like Merlyn) that's >>> ALL of DC? (Marvel)

Actually, has it ever been used on a cat (like Jaspers) that's,

? (Merlyn) >>> All of DC (Marvel Omniverse)

Cat (Jaspers) >>> ? (Merlyn)

meaning the ? (Merlyn) is already >>> All of DC (Marvel Omniverse)

but now we have the Cat (Jaspers) who's >>> ? (Merlyn)

.....................................................................................

In other words,

what uber being was erased by DC's Entropy rift?

these are some things i need answered. what makes merly more powerful than the omniverse? Did he create it all? Can he control reality in all of it at the same time? Can he wipe it all out with power from his own body or does he use that machine thingy? Now on to MJJ. he can survive against Time and space wipeout. Can he survive a sould wipe out? a nothingness attack? Can he survive if the entire omniverse is collapsed on him at the same time? How does the 616 get erased if MJJ lives in it?

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Thats your opinon cool with me..but i hope my time here has shown i am not bias at all not one iotta

When i read zero hour(which has been at my table for over 7 months as a trade and i own the comics as i got them as they came out) i see parallax fighting spectre and the heroes..after a page or so parallax blast spectre and he cries out..he seems to disapear...kyle then says spectre's sacrafice has weakened parallax....now this is going on while parallax is fighting on both fronts and is being drained at the same time....spectre then appaers after hal has been defeated

In my world Spectre was beat..sorry if DC made that comic and gave specte a low showing..call it pis? ok maybe....but i am not bias and i dont like what they do with spectre and then just because of his station and role he is exempt from loses? sorry i cant do that..i call them as i see them

Now what is talked about in later comics such as hal stating parallax was nothing next to the spectre means little or nothing to me.....in zero hour spectre was defeated in my opinon

And What a feat for Parallax right! evidence shows him stalemating then blasting spectre away..while fighting heroes while being drained

If i was to see a thread Zero hour-Parallax vs Spectre.....i would hope to see parallax for the win as a majority....but when a character with spectre's role is put down..look out! cant have that

Spectre was blasted and reeled back some. He was never shown unconscious. You might interpret it however you want that Spectre was somehow KOed, but its cool as long as you recognize that it's 'in your opinion' and 'in your world', because him falling, being KOed, or anything of the sort...never happened on panel. Parallax ran out of juice, Spectre still had vast enough amount of energy left to assist Damage in becoming the new Big Bang. It's pretty clear who's at the advantage, should Spectre have kept pressing the issue. While, Hal Jordan was put in a headlock, punched, hit with an arrow... pretty much being put down by some street level tactics. And from Secret Files, history of the DCU, and later comics, it's pretty clear what DC intended to have happened there as well, since they pretty much credit Spectre with his downfall.

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Spectre was blasted and reeled back some. He was never shown unconscious. You might interpret it however you want that Spectre was somehow KOed, but its cool as long as you recognize that it's 'in your opinion' and 'in your world', because him falling, being KOed, or anything of the sort...never happened on panel. Parallax ran out of juice, Spectre still had vast enough amount of energy left to assist Damage in becoming the new Big Bang. It's pretty clear who's at the advantage, should Spectre have kept pressing the issue. While, Hal Jordan was put in a headlock, punched, hit with an arrow... pretty much being put down by some street level tactics.

Fanboy.

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Fanboy.

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Spectre was blasted and reeled back some. He was never shown unconscious. You might interpret it however you want that Spectre was somehow KOed, but its cool as long as you recognize that it's 'in your opinion' and 'in your world', because him falling, being KOed, or anything of the sort...never happened on panel. Parallax ran out of juice, Spectre still had vast enough amount of energy left to assist Damage in becoming the new Big Bang. It's pretty clear who's at the advantage, should Spectre have kept pressing the issue. While, Hal Jordan was put in a headlock, punched, hit with an arrow... pretty much being put down by some street level tactics. And from Secret Files, history of the DCU, and later comics, it's pretty clear what DC intended to have happened there as well, since they pretty much credit Spectre with his downfall.

spectre is one of ur favorite characters. and quit forcing ur opinion on others. u act as if ur opinion is fact.

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mad jim jaspers for the win here.

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Regarding Entropy, only 2 beings in DC haven't been killed by it. Parallax (I'm assuming since he can make the rifts that it won't kill him, right Galan?) and Extant.

There's also the Entropy Aegis, but that thing was powered by Entropy among other things.

Regarding this fight: Not much more I can say than Mr. M and Galan haven't already pointed out with greater understanding than me.

I was gonna go with Parallax at first, but then I realized that divergent timelines and Jasper's own reality warp would probably negate a temporal attack.

So I'll go with a stalemate until further notice. And Nvr was right btw. Mxy would blink MJJ out of existance. But Parallax isn't nearly powerful enough to do it that easily.

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Regarding Entropy, only 2 beings in DC haven't been killed by it. Parallax (I'm assuming since he can make the rifts that it won't kill him, right Galan?) and Extant.

There's also the Entropy Aegis, but that thing was powered by Entropy among other things.

Regarding this fight: Not much more I can say than Mr. M and Galan haven't already pointed out with greater understanding than me.

I was gonna go with Parallax at first, but then I realized that divergent timelines and Jasper's own reality warp would probably negate a temporal attack.

So I'll go with a stalemate until further notice. And Nvr was right btw. Mxy would blink MJJ out of existance. But Parallax isn't nearly powerful enough to do it that easily.

mxy wouldnt blink him out of existence. not even close. mxy has been oneshotted by gog and depowered by a hostless spectre.

shazam put up more than a fight than mxy against the hostless spectre.

Sep 14th, 2007 05:51 AM

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MJJ >> Omniversal power
Parallax = shit

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MJJ >> Omniversal power
Parallax = shit

I"ve never seen any scans showing MJJ beating anyone with True Omniversal power. As in like, someone who can create/Destroy the omniverse all at once. Or even reality warp it al at once. Which is what That is. Only beings like The LT, THOTU, The Alient entity, Lucifer, Michael, Spectre, seem to have that kind of power. MJJ does not.

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According to Marvel, the CN and UN Erase/Nullifies anything it touches.

Apparently not, If there are beings whom can survive it.

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With the exception of Fury & Jaspers 616.

But now they're one, so it's only One cat that can survive nullification, Jaspers/Fury.

Actually, we don't know what the new Jaspers/Fury amalgam is capable of just yet. So it's purely speculatory to say it can survive nullification at this point in time.

All we know is what you've said a few times now, which is...

Both Fury and MJJ are capable of surviving nullification.... [That's two cats btw]. stick out tongue

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Nothing has ever survived Marvel's Entropy either.

Well with that ONE exception.

Which is my reasoning behind saying DC's Entropy is more destructive that Marvel's nullification.

Beings can survive nullification in Marvel..... While nothing has or can survive Entropy in DC.

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