That kind of illustrates one of my points, by the way. Wonder Woman has taken out Supergirl but Supergirl in her own comic was played as more powerful (stronger, faster, tougher) than Superman but Superman is played as stronger and tougher to damage than WW. Do you see the circle here? Power levels are not consistent.
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Reread The Sacrifice. Superman had a Sun amp. He also was stricken with greif and thought he was fighting his wife's killer. WW was said on panel to be holding back. IT puts everything into perspective when you realize Superman was amped and enraged and she was holding back and fighting with a cool head holding back.
WW was indeed holding back but you could also see that she couldnt take anymore damage and was getting her ass kicked. Her durability isnt up to par with Supermans.
Was he sun amped when he broke her wrist? I don't remember and, for me, that's a critical point. If he did that without being sun-amped, it puts him on a considerably greater power level.
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Youdon't have to be stronger than someone to break thier wrist. You only have to have leverage. As a matter of fact, I could break someone's wrist twice as strong as me. And the sun amped last for a while.
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Look at the fight this way too. WW Took a punch from Superman in a sun amped state that was able to knock her fromt he sun to the earth in less than a minute. Hell faster than that. She was going far faster than light. That is an uber durable *****. Then she enters the earth's atmosphere and didn't burn up. Sometimes you have to look at every detail in order to show the feats of the person your arguing for. Also, WW was able to make Sun amped Superman howl in pain and bleed. She was able to escape his enhanced senses where he couldn't sense her. She also cracked his ribs or something like that. Plus, really, she could have killed him or taken his hands off early on in the battle if she was in blood lust mode hereself.
In that case, I'll have to fall back on each person invokes feats based on who they prefer to believe would win the fight. In general, people do seem to prefer to believe WW would lose against BA and/ or that she's not up there with characters like Superman, BA, Captain Marvel, Martian Manhunter, etc.
I wonder if most people perceive Captain Marvel, Cap Jr. and Mary as being equally powerful in their 'classic' concepts where they all equally shared the same power?
All I know is, that you bash Quanchi, and now you're telling people not to bash nvr...
And quite frankly, I haven't seen Quan bash, or do a quarter of the offensive shit as I've seen nvr do.
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And I haven't seen nearly the assholes and bullshit tactics that people have pulled on me since I've been on here, being done to quan. Everything has context. I have much reason to be a b itch. And more every day as you and your buddies and others provide the fuel.
The meaning of trolling is thrown around loosely...
And quite frankly, Quan is no troll.
He just doesn't like the "hype" Darkseid gets on the forum, and he feels it necessary to argue it at every turn. Sure it's annoying as f*ck, but that doesn't constitute as trolling.
The only time I've seen him "troll" is after someone else has. Whether it's about him or his opposition. Most times, he just wants to argue his point. People don't like that, so they call it trolling.
You can call him stupid, bias, etc, but he is far from a troll, nor does he troll that much at all.
There is a difference between trolling and being a troll. I have seen Quan come into threads for the sheer purpose of calling DS a pussy and saying he got bloodied by a kick from Batgod, that kinda shit.
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