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No, he really doesn't.

In the Matrix Neo's top speed was around mach 3.4.

His strength was laughable compared to Superman.

That sword would have broken on Superman's skin.

You all say he is "God" in the Matrix, yet he was cut by a sword.

Even in the Matrix, Neo is still only a man.

Superman rips him to pieces.

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How would Neo's skin hold up to Supe's laser eye thingy?

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In the Matrix Neo's top speed was around mach 3.4.

Its actually unconfirmed what his speed is.

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Its actually unconfirmed what his speed is.

No it isn't, he flew 500 miles in about 15 minutes, which is roughly mach 3.4.

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Mate, read my opening post. I already gave the minimum speed of at least Mach 3.

That doesn't mean thats his top speed.

(Hmm, Kinda like how a hunter keeping up with same speed as its prey doesnt mean its the hunter's top speed, if ya know what I mean.)

Besides, he has feats that definately top that speed. Read first post please.

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Mate, read my opening post. I already gave the minimum speed of at least Mach 3.

That doesn't mean thats his top speed.

(Hmm, Kinda like how a hunter keeping up with same speed as its prey doesnt mean its the hunter's top speed, if ya know what I mean.)

Besides, he has feats that definately top that speed. Read first post please.

The only one that could possibly top it was the one when he saved them from the explosion, but it is not quantifiable.

Sonic booms? Well that is easily capable within mach 3 speeds.

And since we only have one quantifiable speed feat, that's all we can go by.

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The only one that could possibly top it was the one when he saved them from the explosion, but it is not quantifiable.

Why is it not quantifiable?

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Sonic booms? Well that is easily capable within mach 3 speeds.

Not to the point where it causes vehicles to be flying in the air and causing signifcant damage to the buildings he flies pass.

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Why is it not quantifiable?

Not to the point where it causes vehicles to be flying in the air and causing signifcant damage to the buildings he flies pass.

1. We can't place that within any form of measurement. We have no idea how fast he is going.

2. Possibly. I really don't know.

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1. We can't place that within any form of measurement. We have no idea how fast he is going.

Well, we can't. But it can be done.

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How would Neo's skin hold up to Supe's laser eye thingy?

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By feats, not well RJ.

Though regardless, Superman's speed feats trump Neo's.

Matter of fact, if I remember right, Superman showed he could be in multiple places in the world at once.

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Though regardless, Superman's speed feats trump Neo's.

Agreed

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Matter of fact, if I remember right, Superman showed he could be in multiple places in the world at once.

Well, thats how people perceived it because he moved so fast. He wasn't literally at two places at once though.

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I think people aren't considering this:

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Why would Superman be out of the Matrix? He's just a blue pill, after all.

And even if he was, he'd just be a normal human. No powers whatsoever. The only reason Neo has any powers outside of the Matrix is because he's the One and even THAT wasn't meant to happen.

Also, as said, the subway station was neither in the Matrix nor the Real so it's irrelevant.

Considering that Neo can rewrite the very code of the Matrix itself, there's no way he couldn't win.

There we go, that being said Neo could win over Supes.

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For the record, Neo wasn't "all powerful" within the Matrix. Not in a combat scenario, anyway, since Agent Smith beat his ass. Smith > Neo.

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For the record, Neo wasn't "all powerful" within the Matrix. Not in a combat scenario, anyway, since Agent Smith beat his ass. Smith > Neo.

For the record, the movies were about his escalation to god-like status, he' bound to get his ass kicked somewhere along the way, it was made to be a movie and entertain by showing some sort of peril.

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I think people aren't considering this:

There we go, that being said Neo could win over Supes.

But here is the thing.

Not every blue pill is the same physically, right?

Even they have certain physical advantages over one another. So Superman would simply be physically very powerful for a blue pill.

He won't rewrite shit before Superman rips him in half.

In the movies, Neo has never displayed these Nigh Omnipotent reality warping powers people seem to think he has.

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If Neo is "god", why do we even see him in fight scenes? Why does he even need to fight if he can control the "code"...?

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I think people aren't considering this:

There we go, that being said Neo could win over Supes.

thats assuming the matrix could deal with a kryptonian mind...

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How would Neo's skin hold up to Supe's laser eye thingy?

it wouldnt.

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For the record, the movies were about his escalation to god-like status, he' bound to get his ass kicked somewhere along the way, it was made to be a movie and entertain by showing some sort of peril.

For the record, that shitstain of an argument basically amounts to LOLZ HE ONLY GOT HIS ASS KICKED DUE TO DEMANDS OF TEH PLOT, which is utterly irrelevant. You don't get to dictate the purpose of the plot (i.e. Neo's apoethesis) and then blame his defeat in single combat at the hands of Agent Smith on how "it was made to be a movie and entertain by showing some sort of peril" and then expect any of us to actually shrug it off with an "Oh, okay, I guess he is all powerful."

So while I appreciate the revisionist history and apologistic attitude, the fact remains that Agent Smith overcame Neo in single combat and Neo's victory only came through sacrifice; that's like saying Anakin Skywalker is "all powerful" since he vanquished Palpatine, even though the Emperor would have owned his ass in a fight.

In the context of a fight, even within the Matrix, Neo is not all powerful. The end.

Jul 19th, 2008 05:00 AM

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So according to you guys who don't think Neo is a god, how does the trilogy end? Towards the very end, it's symoblized that he's done with his journey, is it not? He becomes a god within the Matrix.

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