[QUOTE=11477609]Originally posted by big juggy man
[B]The first kick Zabuza landed on Kakashi knocked him through the air and put him in position to be trapped in the water sphere, Maybe in the Naruto you people watched you didnt see that. Kakashi stated himself if Naruto and Sasuke didnt help him he would of died.
In the second fight with Zabuza and Kakashi it wasnt really a fight. Kakashi again state that he knew Zabuza was the type of opponent who liked to clown around so Zabuza wasnt serious at first. Zabuza himself stated he wanted to toy with Kakashi before killing him as pay back from their first fight. After the dogs bit Zabuza's arms, back and legs he was done. It is also hard to fight a person who has mastered the Sharingan in a head to head fight just using taijutsu to began with.
well ok sasuke and naruto saved kakashi and he admits it fine... but you areforgetting that the only reason kakashi got caught in the first place was because he had to protect 3 little kids and an old man, on a one on one battle kakashi would have owned zabuza, how many times has been said in naruto that an ambush gives the opponent the upper hand and both times kakashi was ambush and he stills defeats the enemy... so i think thats enough proof that kakashi is stronger and way better fighter than zabuza
as for lee and kiba... kiba was dead scared of gaara and lee almost defeated gaara so lee would have owned him before the 2 year gap... as for now we have no idea of what kiba is capable of...
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Foolish. But it hardly matters, you have no argument.
Oh. You mean the one where Zabuza was standing right behind him with his sword drawn and was in a superior position to attack and Kakashi was surprised?
...Just when I felt like you could not fail me further, when I thought my opinion of you had dropped to the very bottom of the deepest ravine, you prove that there is still one thing you can never fail to do...And that is fail me.