Actually, since you can't measure how fast Darkseid was fighting in his bouts with Superman and Orion and since Thor has fought and beat more superspeedsters than Darkseid; e.g. Gladiator, Hyperion, Surfer, Hermes, etc...
... then based on pure objective, demonstrative and measurable combat speed and reflex feats... Thor actually is superior to Darkseid. Quite definitely.
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Excuse me? How many of them have used actual speed on Thor?
Your marvel bias aggravates me. With the exception of Surfer, none of those guys have demonstrated combat speed on Superman's level. And even Surfer is inferior in combat speed.
Anyone who can fight an angry Superman in H2H is easily faster than Thor. Based on the fact that Orion always stalemates Supes in H2H, and that he and Darkseid have fought each evenly in H2H, with DS ultimately coming out on top most of the time,
then objective opinion dictates that Darkseid speedblitzes Thor, takes the stupid gem, and then sends him into his own personal hell with the Omega Sanction.
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Enyalus: Don't be lazy. You're excused. All of them have used actual speed on Thor. At least, based on your own standards. Because despite the fact you can never prove and measure just how fast Superman or Orion are going in their respective fights with Darkseid, you gleefully assume they must have been operating at superspeeds. Since you consider yourself to be so much more unprejudiced and unbiased than me, I have no choice but to adopt your "superior" logic and assume that every fight these proven superspeedtser opponents have against Thor, they must also have operated at superspeeds against him. And since classic Thor ultimately wins all those fights, classic Thor must possess even greater superspeed. Tricksterpriest's logic ftw.Your Marvel antibias humors me. Actually, Gladiator and Hyperion have superior measurable combat speed feats than Superman, Wonder Woman, Thor, etc. Nanosecond feats of not just reflex superspeed, but combat superspeed. Truth. Whereas neither Superman nor Orion nor Darkseid for that matter have exhibited nanosecond combat superspeed.Not really. Especially when you turn your argumentation in on yourself. You've never actually measured just how fast an angry Superman was utilizing his superspeed against Darkseid. For some reason, you assume Superman was operating at superspeeds... while conversely assuming that Thor's opponents never operated at superspeeds. As it stands, your blatant use of double-standards exposes your predilections in this fight. And even when I set that aside and focus on the flimsy substance of your arguments, I have no choice but to rebut your false statements. Because contrary to your statements, DS has actually had his butt righteously raped by Superman in at least half of their actual fist-fights.Yes, because we've seen Darkseid speedblitz so many opponents. And we've seen lots of people take Infinity Gems off people bonded with them. And we've seen pre-FC Darkseid send lots of foes who possess power on the level of Blood and Thunder Thor into their own personal hell with the Omega Sanction.
Thor is not faster than DS. When Superman first traveled to Apok, he commented on how much faster Darkseid's lowlies were. These are just his henchmen, BTW.
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Byrne Superman? Who got knocked out by a gas station explosion even well after Byrne was done retconning him? Ah, yes. The ole tried and true tactic of projecting the best character feats onto an older, weaker incarnation of that character, and then reverse-enhancing a foil character's stats by proxy.
An oldie but goodie tactic I've become well aware of here on KMC.
Yes, we all know DS stock has fallen, but as we come to know, GDS DS was supposedly weaker than DS of today, who can take LOSH brick's attacks with little problem.
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Off panel, but it's not out of the realm for DS to take others powers. He casually wiped Aggog off the planet with his beams. A being able to handle Orion and Lightray at the same time.
Like I said, DS has some horrible showings, no doubt, but a lot of those are shit.
FC DS has the highest feat even from GDS version. Able to collapse the multiverse, right? Or in Seven Soldiers able to create realities/universes.
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May 15th, 2009 01:22 AM
You're excused. All of them have used actual speed on Thor. At least, based on your own standards. Because despite the fact you can never prove and measure just how fast Superman or Orion are going in their respective fights with Darkseid, you gleefully assume they must have been operating at superspeeds. Since you consider yourself to be so much more unprejudiced and unbiased than me, I have no choice but to adopt your "superior" logic and assume that every fight these proven superspeedtser opponents have against Thor, they must also have operated at superspeeds against him. And since classic Thor ultimately wins all those fights, classic Thor must possess even greater superspeed. Tricksterpriest's logic ftw.Your Marvel antibias humors me. Actually, Gladiator and Hyperion have superior measurable combat speed feats than Superman, Wonder Woman, Thor, etc. Nanosecond feats of not just reflex superspeed, but combat superspeed. Truth. Whereas neither Superman nor Orion nor Darkseid for that matter have exhibited nanosecond combat superspeed.Not really. Especially when you turn your argumentation in on yourself. You've never actually measured just how fast an angry Superman was utilizing his superspeed against Darkseid. For some reason, you assume Superman was operating at superspeeds... while conversely assuming that Thor's opponents never operated at superspeeds. As it stands, your blatant use of double-standards exposes your predilections in this fight. And even when I set that aside and focus on the flimsy substance of your arguments, I have no choice but to rebut your false statements. Because contrary to your statements, DS has actually had his butt righteously raped by Superman in at least half of their actual fist-fights.Yes, because we've seen Darkseid speedblitz so many opponents. 
And we've seen lots of people take Infinity Gems off people bonded with them. 
He let Batman fire the bullet. 
