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Mindset
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Originally posted by starlock
Why are posters labeling Jaspers as a Omega? where is this confirmed?
I asked the same thing.


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The label doesn't matter given his power and it's scale. Even if he isn't officially labelled an omega he already possesses their stated level of power since his creation in Captain Britain.


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No


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Yes. He has unlimited control over reality and he's essentially immortal within creation. The label is meaningless in his regard.

Besides, when you consider that he was created before the Omega Mutant label was created, and his low amount of showings (3 arcs to his credit, iirc), it makes sense.

If you weigh 250lbs and box I don't need the IBF and WBC to tell me you're a heavyweight. Common sense should be enough.


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The label isn't meaningless since that is what we were talking about.


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So you misunderstood my first post which explicitly states that he's not officially labeled an Omega Mutant but has their stated level of power, or you said no because you disagree that, even though he been stated to on panel have unlimited power over reality, it doesn't mean he's an Omega, which would mean having unlimited power (which he possesses)? confused


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Omega is a reference to potential, not realized power.


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Ok.

But in that regard, it was stated that Jaspers had the "potential" to have domain over all reality via his powers if left unchecked. Would that distinction then not lead to a parallel with the "Omega" classification, though not officially stated?


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Ok.

But in that regard, it was stated that Jaspers had the "potential" to have domain over all reality via his powers if left unchecked. Would that distinction then not lead to a parallel with the "Omega" classification, though not officially stated?
Meh, not necessarily.

He would be stronger than LT, but LT does not have unlimited power. So Jaspers would not need unlimited potential to have control over all of MU.


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Ok.

However, is it not also stated that the "Omega" level mutants, with their "unlimited" potential, would evolve to a state where they'd usurp and surpass the current roles of the abstracts, which Jaspers also apparently has the potential to do?

By the way, I'm not arguing with you, I just want clarification on your stance. Just curiosity.


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Originally posted by illadelph12
Ok.

However, is it not also stated that the "Omega" level mutants, with their "unlimited" potential, would evolve to a state where they'd usurp and surpass the current roles of the abstracts, which Jaspers also apparently has the potential to do?

By the way, I'm not arguing with you, I just want clarification on your stance. Just curiosity.
Idk, I think you might need to go back and look at the posts.

I asked where it was said he was omega, which should tell you that I don't know if he was said to be so or not.

I don't have a stance.

Forgot to answer your question, Wanda usurped the abstracts position, that didn't make her an omega to my knowledge. Also, I think you may be thinking of the future of humanity and not omega mutants.


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confused

this thread is full of .."huh?"

Labels are meh, what makes Iceman Omega and not Jim? If it's ONLY a bio's label then....

Unless people are just playing devils advocate and arguing for the sake of..whatever. Is there really honestly a doubt that both these guys are Omega level?

sorry to go off topic.


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Wiki says Jim is an implied omega-level-mutant:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega-...a-level_mutants

Therefore, he is.

Wiki factoids cannot be argued.


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Meh, not necessarily.

He would be stronger than LT, but LT does not have unlimited power.

Say what? The LT has both unlimited power and is omnipotent.

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Say what? The LT has both unlimited power and is omnipotent.
And yet DS can still Omega Sanction him.


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And yet DS can still Omega Sanction him.

Not even close. LT is protected by Doom.

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Just saying my definition of Omega class mutant is anything that said mutant wants to alter in their reality they have the potential to do so. So I'm going to give these 2 a ruling of Omega Level as well as anyone else who can warp reality to their own desires. If there is a higher class of power than infinity i.e. altering space and time on a universal scale besides the Source and Anti-Life equation please anyone feel free to put forward a name and reason that their power and ranking is above warping reality .

Also Squirrel Girl is not a valid example.

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laughing out loud

You realize the two examples you gave were from one company, while the Omega class rating and Squirrel Girl were from another?

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