quan is correct regarding the un by a technicality, dude can recall it whenver he wants and it's power is supposed to be the manifestation of what galactus represents.
but....standard tech as we know it on kmc kinda clashes with the relationship galactus has with the un.
imo, a whole new thread could be made just trying to figure out if it's legal or not. maybe a mod (or mr master) could clear it up.
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I didn't. But I get what you were getting at now.
Said he was the Big Bang personified. Didn't say he was the Big Bang. He was in fact born from the Big Bang. This is pretty evident when he gets killed...he realizes the flaw in the creation of the universe. If he was around from the very beginning, AKA being the Big Bang....well, you see where this is going?
That was from a Marvel Adventures book, which are always non-canon.
He contained the energies of all the galaxies he had absorbed up to that point. He didn't have the full power of the Big Bang yet. Its stated on panel and I have the scan if you won't take my word for it.
Ah, okay. Anywho, I think its pretty conclusive that Imperiex isn't the Big Bang. Um...if Galactus erases Imperiex with the UN, I don't know, even taking into account what I said. But I don't go for that angle 'cause its cheap lol.
I think it has to do with the threat level he faces. He isn't going to whip it out against Odin, but someone like Imperiex or Abraxas I could see him doing so.
I already shut down the imperiex is only the energy he took from the galaxies he destroyed argument before enyalus,people much smarter and who have access to much higher cosmic knowledge than the person who talked about that flat out say imperiex is the very force of entropy and rebirth.
that's not really the point, i think standard tech has more to do with how much character X wears/carries/uses/pilots said item(s).
in the case of the un, imo. it's difficult to say since the un is technically a dismembered part of galactus' power/being/representation of sorts, but at the same time he seldom uses it or carries it with him.
I disagree as I have already proved he can use it when he wants to. The point is the un is usually only used against the bigger threats. This I think qualifies as a bigger threat.
We can argue for Thor using the godblast based on the situation as well. We don't negate abilities and powers just because they are rarely used.
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Hey Quan, in case you forgot, the UN has failed before too. It resealed Abraxas, it didn't kill him. Magus blocked it with 4 gems of the IG by redirecting the beams. And I'm reasonably sure there's at least one more.
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He only used it once against Korvac... and that was only because that was the easiest way to destroy him... from many galaxies away. And he only did it because he robbed him, not because of who it was.
Korvac is by no means a big threat to Galactus...
You'd think he'd have used it against Beyonder, Agamotto, etc.
Plus, Galactus' entire Worldship being used has more basis than the UN... as he actually recalled the thing from a place he couldn't see, and from a place half a universe away... and he always uses the damn thing.
Should this also be in the thread?
That's all I need on top of the times the omega beams have failed. It is rarely used in comics, but the un was used against Abraxas and was attempted against the ig. My point is made and is very credible. My scan proves it is standard gear and a part of his overall power.
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