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And your point was initially that in hand to hand, Obi wan has precog an...insd Blade does not..insinuating that it'd allow him to win. Despite the fact that him having precog didn't stop him getting the shit kicked out of him by grievous when they went hand to hand and Grievous doesn't have precog.



It's not lightsabre resistant because it's a tough metal though is it? It's resistant because of the way it disipates electrical energy from the sabre. So that had absolutely no bearing on how it would react to hitting or being hit by another metal.



I'm not assuming anything. The evidence is shown on the screen. He swings the staff like any other untrained person would. So applying logic to what you think he might or might not be trained in is unneccesary.


Dude, Grievous was made of metal, BAD example.

I'm not gonna get into the semantics of phrik, you wanna debate that, pm Dadudemon.

Obi Wan swung the staff while holding onto Grievous's speeder thingie, AND while dodging blasterfire. focus on the spear and the blaster. He picked them up and used them like a pro. Think about this: What if I said "Riddick pwns with knives, but he is shit woth a sword, because we never SEE him with a sword." How stupid would that be?


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Obi Wan swung the staff while holding onto Grievous's speeder thingie, AND while dodging blasterfire. focus on the spear and the blaster. He picked them up and used them like a pro. Think about this: What if I said "Riddick pwns with knives, but he is shit woth a sword, because we never SEE him with a sword." How stupid would that be?


He fought using the the staff not only on the speeder after grabbing it from Grievous but also on the platform towards the end of the fight.

Your analogy is shit because you do actually see Obi wan use a staff...and he's not good with it.

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Dude, Grievous was made of metal, BAD example.


How is it a bad example. The only time him being made of metal came into play was when Obi wan kicked him and injured himself. The point is OBI WAN WAS BEING HIT...MEANING HIS PRECOG DID JACK SHIT TO PREVENT THAT...MEANING BLADE (BEING FASTER THAN GRIEVOUS) WOULD EASILY BE ABLE TO HIT HIM.

If you're insinuating that because Grievous is made of metal, that force precog wouldn't work as he wouldn't have any midichlorians for Obi wan's force ability to read then you're surely aware that Grievous is only a metal skeleton over an organic body?


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Speed kills and i believe Obi Wan has the speed advantage here


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Speed kills and i believe Obi Wan has the speed advantage here


Not with a staff he doesn't.


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He fought using the the staff not only on the speeder after grabbing it from Grievous but also on the platform towards the end of the fight.

Your analogy is shit because you do actually see Obi wan use a staff...and he's not good with it.



How is it a bad example. The only time him being made of metal came into play was when Obi wan kicked him and injured himself. The point is OBI WAN WAS BEING HIT...MEANING HIS PRECOG DID JACK SHIT TO PREVENT THAT...MEANING BLADE (BEING FASTER THAN GRIEVOUS) WOULD EASILY BE ABLE TO HIT HIM.

If you're insinuating that because Grievous is made of metal, that force precog wouldn't work as he wouldn't have any midichlorians for Obi wan's force ability to read then you're surely aware that Grievous is only a metal skeleton over an organic body?


I'll watch the scene later, to be honest it's been a while.

I am insinuating that Grievous's hits were almost impossible to block, and any hit Obi wan lands on him is gonna do shit. I know how force precog works, sir, calm down.


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No. You were insinuating the Obi wan's precog would prevent him from getting hit from Blade...It didn't against another non-force opponent...It won't against Blade.

Blade connects...Obi wan loses.


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Not with a staff he doesn't.


Why not? He has bested some of the greatest swordsman in space. I'm sure he can dodge Blades attacks long enough until he finds an opening or disarms him and uses Blades Katana against him.


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Why not? He has bested some of the greatest swordsman in space. I'm sure he can dodge Blades attacks long enough until he finds an opening or disarms him and uses Blades Katana against him.


Clearly not been reading the rest of the thread then?

He didn't dodge Grievous when he had no lightsabre and it was hand to hand

I think you're also forgetting something about Blade's sword.


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Didn't Obi Wan kick Grievous' ass? I remember that Grievous couldn't down Obi Wan with four light sabers. Also, doesn't Grievous' staff have lasers and shit on the tip?

I'm sure Obi Wan would sense Blades Katana trap. Either way, i think Obi Wan is to fast for Blade.


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Didn't Obi Wan kick Grievous' ass? I remember that Grievous couldn't down Obi Wan with four light sabers. Also, doesn't Grievous' staff have lasers and shit on the tip?

I'm sure Obi Wan would sense Blades Katana trap. Either way, i think Obi Wan is to fast for Blade.


Cheap shot to the heart doesn't equate to kicking ass. But if it works, it works.

Grievous couldn't down Obi wan when Obi wan had a sabre...In this fight, he doesn't have a sabre. When it went down to h2h, Grievous did kick Obi wans ass. Even when Obi wan has a staff.

And no...They don't have lasers...They have electrical charges.

Regardless of whether or not Kenobi could sense the weapon's trap (although quite how you go about "sensing" an inanimate object with the force is beyond me) your point was that he could use the sword against Blade...Fact is he couldn't because he wouldn't be able to pick it up without setting off the trap.


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Obi Wan tore Grievous' chest apart and was then kicked over a ledge. There were many things Obi Wan could have done when Grievous was marching towards him but the blaster just happened to be the quickest and smartest move. Grievous was nothing but a little sissy. The only thing he did in that movie was run away and get killed. He had nothing on Obi Wan. Cheap shot to the heart...,please lol

Whether or not Obi Wan can use Blades Katana is besides the point to me. I don't see Blade getting a killing blow on Obi Wan. This fight will go on until Blade gets angry and we all know what happens to Obi Wans Enemies when they get angry and embrace the dark side of the force lol


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Obi Wan tore Grievous' chest apart and was then kicked over a ledge. There were many things Obi Wan could have done when Grievous was marching towards him but the blaster just happened to be the quickest and smartest move. Grievous was nothing but a little sissy. The only thing he did in that movie was run away and get killed. He had nothing on Obi Wan. Cheap shot to the heart...,please lol

Whether or not Obi Wan can use Blades Katana is besides the point to me. I don't see Blade getting a killing blow on Obi Wan. This fight will go on until Blade gets angry and we all know what happens to Obi Wans Enemies when they get angry and embrace the dark side of the force lol


So what else could he have done?...He tried using the staff and got beaten...He tried h2h and got beaten...He practically even admits it was a cheap shot by his "So uncivilised" comment about his use of the blaster.

Blade is easily fast enough to get blows on Kenobi...If Grievous was then Blade is by far.


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why are we assuming greivous is slower then blade?


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why are we assuming greivous is slower then blade?


We're not assuming anything...The proof is on screen in front of your eyes.


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could you show it to me, please?


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Go watch the fights...They're hardly difficult to find. I'm not going to spoon fight you like you're some slobbering retard.


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it was kind of a subtle way of saying that nothing in the blade movies point to him being faster then greivous.


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it was kind of a subtle way of saying that nothing in the blade movies point to him being faster then greivous.


Exept for, of course, EVERY ONE OF HIS FIGHT SCENES.


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i disagree. in fact i think his fight scenes show the opposite.

you can try to prove otherwise though if you want. smile


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