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Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
At least we actually have a rational argument to support our position. You clearly can't come up with a rebuttal to our arguments, so you just tell us to go back to the SW forums in an insulting manner without saying how we are wrong, because we aren't and you know it. That's pathetic.

Or, if you think otherwise, maybe you can actually come up with an argument to support your side.


No you're pathetic. It's not your first time here, and you know this forum uses movie feats only, yet you continue to spout your EU bullshit.

As for arguments, there are plenty in this thread, you haven't made any responses to them, only ignoring them and saying what the jedi will do (which they won't even get a chance to).


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I had a thought. OK, here's the OP and the SW list of fighters:

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Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Every Vampire shown in the "Twilight" movies versus every Jedi shown in all six Star Wars movies.

Scenario one:The fight takes place where the T1000 (Terminator: Judgement Day), was killed.

This scenario has only the Jedi.


Scenario two: The Jedi are teamed with the Sith.

The fight takes place on Mustafar, where Anakin and Obi Wan dueled. To the death.


In both scenarios, the following conditions apply:

1. Both teams have extensive knowledge of each other.

2. Both teams get one hour prep time.





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OK, team SW, edited:

Team Star Wars:


Darth Sidious
Darth Vader (ROTS to ROTJ)
Yoda
Mace Windu
Luke Skywalker (ROTJ)
Darth Maul
Qui Gon Jinn
Obi Wan Kenobi (ROTS)
Ki Adi Mundi
Aayla Secura
Plo Koon
Saesee Tinn
Depa Billaba
Count Dooku
Shaak Ti
Kit Fisto
Jett Zukassa
Jango Fett
Boba Fett
Zam Wessell
General Grievous




Suggestions?



Now, If the Twivamps and Jedi start out close to one another, ten feet or so, the Jedi are in trouble.

Let's go with this: The Twivamps are dropped via shuttle at the battle sites, a mile away. They have been briefed on the layout of each, maps and whatnot, while the Jedi use their prep time while already at the battle site.

That OK with you guys?


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Originally posted by Darth Truculent
Try Galen Marek who re-directed a Star Destroyer into rail cannons. Force Lightning? Force Storm? Force Shove? Force Grip? Anyone feel like having fried trivamp dinner tonight? Nearly forgot - Darth Zannah and her Sith Sorcery. She'd be fighting a trivamp while probing the mind and digging their innermost fears and poof! . . . suddenly those demons are in the vamps face. Easy kill (see Star Wars: Rule of Two)As to the skin, ever hear of shatterpoint? Mace, Caedus, Jaina and Luke had the ability to use shatterpoint which breaks anything including beskar which is the densest armor.


Starkiller is not a G-level canon character....and neither is anything else you've named.


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Still not sure how her precog helps her against Jedi who can react fast enough to block blaster bolts coming from multiple directions. IF the Jedi precog works as it is supposed to, the Twivamps will have no chance going toe to toe with them. A lightsaber will cut through them as easy as a hot knife through butter. The Twivamps will need to rely on their powers here. Going CQC with a Jedi who is armed with a lightsaber is absolute insanity, no matter who you are.

Also, in TPM, the ONE time they showed Obi Wan and Qui Gon using force speed, they moved pretty damn fast. They were a few hundred feet down a hallway in a coupla seconds.


It cause she can react faster than a jedi, is faster, is stronger, and has far better senses. That's how.



It's rather simple, actually.


And, a vampire can move that fast, all the time, apparently, without tiring. smile Carlisle said that Jasper and Edward could fight like that all day and there wouldn't be a change.





It's time like these that I wish we could bring in ALMOST G-level canon such as the Clone Wars cartoon. sad


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It cause she can react faster than a jedi, is faster, is stronger, and has far better senses. That's how.



It's rather simple, actually.


And, a vampire can move that fast, all the time, apparently, without tiring. smile Carlisle said that Jasper and Edward could fight like that all day and there wouldn't be a change.





It's time like these that I wish we could bring in ALMOST G-level canon such as the Clone Wars cartoon. sad

I know, but, IF Jedi precog works as it is supposed to, the Jedi will know where she will attack from. If she rushes in and attacks from the side, the Jedi will know right before it happens, and she'll step into a lightsaber. If she rushes in, sidesteps and attacks from the rear, the Jedi will now right before it happens and she'll step into a lightsaber. Etc etc etc; Her superior speed is nullified IF the Jedi knows where she will be at any moment.

No one is mentioning Grievous here?


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I know, but, IF Jedi precog works as it is supposed to, the Jedi will know where she will attack from. If she rushes in and attacks from the side, the Jedi will know right before it happens, and she'll step into a lightsaber. If she rushes in, sidesteps and attacks from the rear, the Jedi will now right before it happens and she'll step into a lightsaber. Etc etc etc; Her superior speed is nullified IF the Jedi knows where she will be at any moment.

No one is mentioning Grievous here?



But you were the one preaching how crappy jedi battle precog is...but now it's supposed to be even remotely close to Alice's?




Here, this is a far better version of Twlight...and the acting is even better than in the movies. no expression

http://www.kontraband.com/videos/23...light-But-Good/


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But you were the one preaching how crappy jedi battle precog is...but now it's supposed to be even remotely close to Alice's?




Here, this is a far better version of Twlight...and the acting is even better than in the movies. no expression

http://www.kontraband.com/videos/23...light-But-Good/


I knew you would go there.

The other thread had attacks in varying forms, coming from everywhere. Above and Below. Big walls of fiendfyre. It had the Jedi splitting their attention on too many things at once.

Here, it's "OK, vampires, kill them."

Precog should work fine.


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No one is mentioning Grievous here?


Grievous sucks unless we allow some EU in there. Heck, if we go by as much as the Revenge of the Sith novel, which old Lucas personally read and approved as canon, Grievous is so fast that 'Grievous's limbs could move them faster than the human eye can see; when he swung his arm, it and his fist and the lightsaber within it would literally vanish: wiped from existence by sheer mind-numbing speed, an imitation quantum event. No human being could move remotely as fast as Grievous, not even Obi-Wan-but he didn't have to.' and he's skilled enough to be one of the greatest swordsmen in history, matching Mace Windu in a straight up duel.

But we can't. So he sucks donkey testicles. no expression


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k. And the Fett's?


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Nice.


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Jedi/Sith stomp... The idea that the TwiVamps can win by sitting around using their powers is all fine and dandy, if we accept the fact that the Jdei and Sith are sitting around like sheep for a slaughter... Hell while Jane uses her oh so special powers Vader will be chocking the hell out of them. And if the Vamps are to fast for the Jedi, well TK can be used.

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LOL at choking Twivamps.


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Yeah my bad... Doesn't stop him from using TK though.

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Yeah my bad... Doesn't stop him from using TK though.


Replace force-choke with force-crush in regards to Vader; you've got yourself a win.


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Edit: Very true he uses it at the end of ROTS...

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Originally posted by Placidity
No you're pathetic. It's not your first time here, and you know this forum uses movie feats only, yet you continue to spout your EU bullshit.

As for arguments, there are plenty in this thread, you haven't made any responses to them, only ignoring them and saying what the jedi will do (which they won't even get a chance to).


When did I use EU feats here in this thread?

Here's my argument:

Jedi see vampires.

Vampires charge at Jedi.

Jedi use the Force to hold the Vampires in place.

Jedi Force pull the Vampires to them while igniting their lightsabers and impaling the Vampires.




I have not seen any argument that effectively counters this.


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Replace force-choke with force-crush in regards to Vader; you've got yourself a win.


I've never seen any Jedi (in the films) force crush a solid rock.


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When did I use EU feats here in this thread?

Here's my argument:

Jedi see vampires.

Vampires charge at Jedi.

Jedi use the Force to hold the Vampires in place.

Jedi Force pull the Vampires to them while igniting their lightsabers and impaling the Vampires.




I have not seen any argument that effectively counters this.


TK is out. No Jedi is even remotely close to being powerful enough to exert many tons of force on a being that can produce many tons of force with just one arm.

Again, this is movie versus thread, not EU versus movie thread.


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I've never seen any Jedi (in the films) force crush a solid rock.


Their have been Jedi that have affected solid durasteel, which is far harder than rock.


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Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
When did I use EU feats here in this thread?

Here's my argument:

Jedi see vampires.

Vampires charge at Jedi.

Jedi use the Force to hold the Vampires in place.

Jedi Force pull the Vampires to them while igniting their lightsabers and impaling the Vampires.




I have not seen any argument that effectively counters this.
There really is none. The Twivamps need their powers here, and even then the Jedi can force pull them into their sabers.

If the twivamps take the time to use their powers, the Fett's will burn them.


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