It's PIS. That's what you dont get. She cant overpower omnipotent creatures in a forum battle where PIS is off by default. The power of 'absolute truth' which is tied to DC's manicheistic metaphysics is just hyperbole. So what if Mephisto is the 'father of lies'? One could just as easily say he gets autowins because he is said to be primordial evil incarnate. Indeed Thor realized it was futile to try and stop such a primal evil.
And yet, someone made this thread because I said she could defeat anyone Warlock cold. The the phuck. It's not PIS for him to win against Mephisto but to her it is? It's called BS and bias in it's highest and most glaring form. She can get the win because she has a HISTORY of doing so.
Had you known maybe you would have been quiet. The point remains, if Warlock's feats can be used in a debate against Wondy, Hers can be used to gain a win over someone Warlock "defeated". Even tho by Forum standards, he should get no wins either. Even tho she technically, has enough wins over Syfathers and Elder Gods to make it plausible.
Thor's done well and has gone toe to toe with Mephisto in his realm before. Of course Thor's also given Hel to Hela, and damaged Set in his realm.....
He froze all of the Avengers in time as I recall. That group included the Silver Surfer. If you want evidence of him affecting divine beings, he was able to hold Odin's soul in a shroud he created for months.
And like I said before, f*ck time manipulation. He warps reality to the point she never knew she was born.
Impressive. My stance still stands. Wondy can defeat Mephisto in his wrealm. I didn't even say she could get the majority. But she is powerful enough, with enough tricks, and a good track record against guys like Mephisto, that she can get the win. Which was my point in the other thread when someone made it like Adam Warlock could get a win but she couldn't.
I meant that you had implied that she is effectivelly immune to magic since as long as the lasso encircles her, no magic would harm her as you claimed in the scan with ring of fire and the zombies. Anyway, the idea that the lasso can't possibly be affected by magic beyond its own is also absurd.
Mephisto can kill Diana pretty easily. I've seen him literally melt/destroy and remake Mjolnir on a whim. I personally believe that this was an illusion but whatever. I have to go, my shift started already.
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Well just prove it. Show any kind of high tier demonic ruler affecting the lasso. The lasso actually cancel's out supernatural powers as well as making them ineffective.
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