It's gravity bro. He can make it as durable as it needs to be as evidenced by the Galactus event. He's even contained a being that was intangible in it.
Like I said, would be nice to know if WW has used the lasso to breach force fields before. I'd like to see the scans of this happening. Otherwise, I don't see how the Lasso can even touch Nova.
Of course, I don't see Nova winning any close ranged fights with WW, but with the Worldmind helping him out, he should easily discern the fact that WW is a close combat specialist and simply keep away from her while peppering her with energy blasts and using his force fields to fend off her limited ranged attacks like her lasso.
It's not like getting the lasso on someone is automatic, but it is a very powerful weapon that if she gets on someone gives a very telling edge that often spells victory.
Also, she's very powerful even without it. I think your problem is you're looking at it from a Nova-centric PoV. Nova's very strong, but WW's a herald level character as well with a wide variety of threats and powers.
What's wrong with punching and kicking? It's very strong, she's very skilled in melee (one of the most skilled Herald levelers in melee period) and won't use just one or two but keep at it, and while Nova took hits from those people, they did definitely hurt. Wonder Woman won't just let up after one hit.
Also, she has a tiara that can cut through anything. WW slit Superman's throat with it, what make you think the same wouldn't threaten Nova? (people have been talking about the lasso and shields, which it can't really penetrate, but an edged object with a cut-all enchantment may do fine).
Her bracers can produce the lightning of Zeus in powerful blasts, and have blocked Darksied's omega effect, which is rather a more concentrated attack than Galactus's big blast there.
You are absolutely right. I AM looking at it from a Nova Centric point of view, but that doesn't mean I am wrong!
She is powerful without the lasso, I even stated it myself. She actually has a better chance of victory using her bracers and other things than she does actually using the lasso.
Better fighter than Nova, I can agree she is. But I can tell you this much, she will NEVER beat Nova in hand to hand combat. More than anything else, more than anything Nova ever displays, his resilience for pain and the level of difficulty it presents bringing his life to an end is by far his major advantage.
Can Wonder Woman fight Nova hand to hand and be superior at it, yes, because although Nova has been trained by the original Nova Prime as well as Drax the Destroyer, he does not have nearly as much experience with hand to hand combat as she does. But can she win with it?
I say thee nay. Simply because I don't think she is physically capable of killing Nova with her bare hands.
Also a good point, but if you go back to the incident concerning Galactus's blast, you will notice two things.
1) Nova was protecting two other people at the time of the blast, to make sure their lives weren't brought to an end right then and there.
2) He was not hurt, but not even seriously harmed by the incident.
The lightning Diana calls down may be powerful, but considering Nova has been in the heated core of Galactus's ship's engine room, withstood the blast I referred to earlier at it's most intense, close to Galactus, has been to the core of a dying planet, and has gone hand to hand with the likes of the silver surfer without any significant damage, I think I can say that he is more than capable of surviving several blasts from the bracers lightning (That is my speculation, if the measurements you're giving of the lightning bolts are accurate).
Another fact about Nova you might be interested in knowing. The more of the Nova force he calls on, the harder it is to beat him. Think of it like how the hulk keeps getting angrier and therefore my powerful. Nova gets desperate and reaches deeper and deeper into the Nova force, looking for a solution.
The more of the Nova force he calls on, the more powerful his attacks get, and the faster his suit heals his body and repairs itself.
There was an incident, I think it was during the War of Kings, where Nova was pretty hurt. In two panels ALL the damage was -gone-. Or maybe it was right before the secret invasion, on Galactus's ship... I can't remember precisely.
Diana can win this, but I put her chances of victory waaaaay below 50%.
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No. And that's kind of a cop out man. We are simply making our case. Looking at some of your statements you seem to believe that Diana wins just by virtue of being Wonder Woman-- That seems to be a more fanboyish stance IMO.
Last edited by dmills on Jul 16th, 2010 at 05:34 PM
Not a cop out the other guy declared Wonder Woman had no chance which is ridiculous and it's quite obvious he reads little if any Wonder . Yes i am a Wonder Woman fanboy
Not arguing that Nova wins this. I'm pretty much undecided. Would like to know what tactics WW would use to pull wins against Nova. I really don't see the lasso becoming as much as an auto-win as a lot of people are saying here.
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Jul 16th, 2010 08:23 AM
. He's part of the Mightiest heroes in the Galaxy line-up
