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mostly to his own planet with the Spores.
again your are applyin retro active feats to a time when he didnt show said abilities..

some of the New god tech would be standard when the fight took place due to us knowing when it was made and build but other tech that just recently appeared in current history shouldnt be viewed as an option in said fight.

the True form of DS is BS.. regardless though when the fight took place there was no true form of darkseid, again shouldnt apply new retcons of the character to an old story.

DS in the Raker Story would have gotten stomped by a couple or a few GL's at that time and point in history whether you wanna argue it as an avatar is fine but it still would have happen.


No, as said it can be used on any planet.
So like I said you believe he New Gods only developed most of their technology recently? lulz

Yeah because the New Gods have been around for billions of years, and it's comical if you think they didn't have really any tech around this time. New Gods first appeared 4,300,000,000 years ago.

Some of their best tech was developed way before this time. They had planet busting tech, and even made Metron's chair, boom tubes, etc.

So you don't like it, that means it's bullshit? Interesting. The avatar card has been around from the 90's. This is not a new concept. Ummm...no, this isn't a new concept and that's the way story telling goes. You can't pick and choose what you wish to believe if it established.

ORLY? *remembers the fight with the Darkstars, Kendotha Kr’Nek and when Mantis stole Hal Jordan's energy, etc.*


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So DS treating Raker like a little *****, crushing his hand, and taking his ring from him now translates to "a couple of GLs would have stomped him"

God I love King Castle's "arguments"

Has anyone else ever broken a GL ring with brute force?


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like i said some of the tech would be standard others would not be due to it appearing or being created later down the road from comic appearance.

DS didnt always have the options he has now back then.

its the same for modern heroes vs their classic appearances.

i am fully aware of apokolypse tech, what i am saying use the tech that appeared before and up to the point of said story basically 60's and 90's when that story was written.

your choices would be limited for "that" particular story arc.


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lulz, Raker Qarrigat is still alive today so how long ago do you think that fight occured then?

and you think only after the instance New Gods developed most of their potent tech? Fail!


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lulz, Raker Qarrigat is still alive today so how long ago do you think that fight occurred then?

Fail!
i know, i was thinking how odd that was but just gaffed it off as probable immortality.

continuity hiccup. *shoulder Shrug*

i guess we have to look at the linear history DCU when the Robot Gl's were created and rebelled to when the 1st GL was formed.


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i know, i was thinking how odd that was but just gaffed it off as probable immortality.

continuity hiccup. *shoulder Shrug*

i guess we have to look at the linear history DCU when the Robot Gl's were created and rebelled to when the 1st GL was formed.


It really wasn't that long ago, the Green Lantern that Darkseid killed before Raker it's body is still on Apokolips and is still fairly in tact nailed to the wall.


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We don't know Raker's lifespan, but he was almost as old as the GL corps itself, so at the very least a significant time ago.


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you noticed that as well, i see..

a lot of inconsistencies.


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We don't know Raker's lifespan, but he was almost as old as the GL corps itself, so at the very least a significant time ago.


It was only a few hundred years ago

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more like "many" centuries


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more like "many" centuries


which is somehow different then a few hundred years (less then a thousand)? Lulz.


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i know, i was thinking how odd that was but just gaffed it off as probable immortality.

continuity hiccup. *shoulder Shrug*

i guess we have to look at the linear history DCU when the Robot Gl's were created and rebelled to when the 1st GL was formed.

IIRC the Manhunters were the first to attempt bringing Apokolips into line, they failed.


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which is somehow different then a few hundred years (less then a thousand)? Lulz.
yes, few is up to three. many is vague for various amounts.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/many


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yes, few is up to three. many is vague for various amounts.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/many


and that's not what I meant, I meant is as a few as in less then a thousand. We even know from the 80-page giant it was for a fact less then 1000 years ago.


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It was only a few hundred years ago

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Huh. I didn't realize the GL corps was so young.


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Huh. I didn't realize the GL corps was so young.

Makes you wonder how long the Manhunters were around and what the Guardians did with their time beforehand, aside from fighting the Reach and imprisoning magic into the Starheart.


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It wouldn't be nearly as an outright slaughter as it was. That's just smart tactics, not sure why you seem to be criticizing it.

For the record, I was just curious how Apokalips would have done against the GLC without weakness exploitation.


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my opinion was in the same exact storyline moment of history not very well..


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For the record, I was just curious how Apokalips would have done against the GLC without weakness exploitation.

Well we only saw DS use his Parademons...and the Parademons are like the fodder infantry.

So while clearly the GLC wouldn't have been beaten by Parademons without the weakness exploitation I don't think it's too crazy to imagine that a wet around the ears GLC with next to no experience could get beaten by the might of Apokolips.

The idea that Apokolips only became a powerhouse in the last few centuries is ridiculous considering they'd been practically stalemating New Genesis for a few thousand years beforehand, and we all know the kind of tech New Genesis possesses.


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Also this was meant as a joke post, not to be taken serious



Lol, you should have posted this in the ownage section... ha ha!


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