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HOM Wanda Vs Chaos King, Thanos, & Void
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Mr Master
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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Good attempt.

Im not having it

You always get it, this is why we amuse ourselves.
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The scan does NOT say that the Chaos Wave fixed reality.

Fallacy #1:

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The scan clearly points out that the Wave (Wanda's power) "put everything back" (fixed reality)
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It says that the wave shook up reality and that reality later fixed itself.
The subject matter of the statement is the omniverse/continuum,

it says the omniverse was shaken up by the wave, then everything was put back.

Fallacy #2:

"it says" ... it says nothing, and NOWHERE does it say the anything was "shook up" ... nice try.

WHAT it DOES say!

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Is that the f'n ENTIRE Omniverse was TORN to pieces!!!


Don't play yourself, I'm not having it.


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Your mistake was in interpreting that the Chaos Wave did this when the subject matter of the entire page is the omniverse and what happened to it.

You made an illogical assumption given that the wave as stated was a mindless, destructive force and thats all it ever was depicted as. Furthermore there is a precedence for reality trying to fix itself after the damage done by the Chaos Wave:

False.

The Wave was Wanda's power that spewed out of 616 & then tore the rest of the Omniverse to pieces.

The Wave was Wanda's power,
& this was proven with on panel evidence & Handbook corroborated proof:

The Fury's bio

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MJJ's bio

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Layla Miller's bio

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Simple.


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Furthermore there is a precedence for reality trying to fix itself after the damage done by the Chaos Wave:
Reality corrects itself all the time. This particular scan refers to REALITY correcting itself after the damage done by the Chaos Wave so its directly related to your scan.

False.

That was Brian talking about when he was seeing a tiny tear in reality closing up,
he could've never known what Wanda did in Genosha.

In any case, we know this could NOT have happened AFTER Wanda put everything back,
otherwise, closing the tear would've been inconsequential,
So, this HAD to have happened BEFORE Wanda put everything back.

Which means the last act that Wanda commits when she says "no more mutants" ... (HOM #7)
is that of putting everything back:

"Wanda, put the world back"

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Uhh, ok ...


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*** Which is what happened to the entire Omniverse as stated by the Writer:


Wanda (with a thought)
RECREATED the Omniverse after her power tore it to pieces:

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"Not long ago, the Omniverse was swept
by a Temporal Reality Wave of unimaginable power
, (Wanda's power)
that literally tore the Continuum to bits and Re-arranged it (Wanda)

After a time, it (Wanda) put everything back the way it was"


*** Which is depicted in the first pages of HOM #8

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The other scans you presented from House of M 7 were of Wanda getting rid of the House of M reality warp.

Something that occured AFTER the Uncanny X-men HOM tie[/b]
which saw the Chaos Wave dealt with and REALITY HEALING ITSELF

Really? ...

I love moments like these,
when you actually capitalize & bold something you're completely WRONG about.

Uncanny X-Men #465 is an HOM #7 tie in,
which means the events therein take place BEFORE the Host title. (HOM #7)

(HOM #7)

November 2005:

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(Uncanny X-Men #465)

December 2005:

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...ouch ... that's gotta sting a bit, yes, .... even you.

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So once again.
Good attempt at trying to tie together unrelated scans to coincide with your agenda.

You misinterpreted or you lied.

Actually so once again I wipe the floor with your simple ass, and as always with proof.

Simple.


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Mr. M always backs up his case. thumb up


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This is getting juicy. I like! eek!

I always love it when you get brash and bold and yet you’re still wrong.

Just to clear up the fallacies spread by one pressed Beyonder stan, allow me to present to you the reading order of House of M from the officially rated Uncanny x-men.net:

http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/time/...&fldAuto=70

Uncanny x-men 465, the issue where the Chaos Wave is stopped and it is stated that reality is correcting itself takes place BEFORE Wanda brings HOM to an end. erm


Now lets have a look at a scene from Uncanny X-men 465:

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After Meggan stops the Chaos Wave, it is stated plain as day that the cosmos heals itself. Please bear in mind this is BEFORE HOM 7 and 8 and in an issue written by Chris Claremont.


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Now lets take a look at Claremonts title New Exiles shall we:

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“The thing about the omniverse is”

The subject of this page is the omniverse. The page is about the omniverse and what happened to it.

What are we told?

“Not so long ago the omniverse was swept by a temporal reality wave of unimaginable power that literally tore the continuum to bits and rearranged it….”

Just to reiterate the page is about the omniverse and what happened to it. Has anyone spotted a reference to the Scarlet Witch yet? Nah. Me neither.

Lets continue. smile

“Then after a time it apparently reversed itself and put everything back the way it was”

So given that the subject is the omniverse and we’re being told by Claremont what happened to it, we take from this that following the Chaos Waves path of destruction, the omniverse fixed itself.


Where in continuity did Claremont previously tell us that after the Chaos Waves path of destruction was halted, that reality healed itself?

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Ohhhhhh yh. yes


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Did you guys manage to find any Wanda references in either of the two scans? Nah. I gave up to.

And need I remind everyone that according to the reading order, Uncanny X-men 465’s story occurred before HOM 7 and 8 which conclusively rubbishes Mr Masters claims that in the scene where shes telling us “No More mutants!” shes also secretly off panel correcting an omniverse we never saw her mess up, with a wave of power never attributed to her in the main title. So how weird would it be for the main title to tack that on at the end. Hmmmm.

So just to reiterate:

Mr Master said that the Mad Jim Jaspers scan shows how Wanda consciously directed the Chaos Wave and then fixed the damage she’d done whilst she was telling us “No More Mutants” (Yeah. My 1st reaction was WTF to)

Mr Master then tried to force his opinion on you by narrating the scan with such references as “(Wandas power)” “Wanda with a thought” and other such nonsense to make up for a complete void of Wanda references in the actual comic.

What a funny chap


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Same ol bull

It never changes.

Nothing but deliberate presentation of fallacies.

Sad.

My son, ... how you disappoint me.


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Same ol bull

It never changes.

Nothing but deliberate presentation of fallacies.

Sad.

My son, ... how you disappoint me.


As you wish kid wink

Just admit you were wrong and its all over.

Its quite clear for all to see.

Whilst its publication date may be a week or two after HOM 7, its reading order isnt which conclusively undermines your argument im afraid sad

As Claremont depicted in Uncanny and then again in New Exiles, reality fixed itself and it happened before Wanda ended it all. It happened before House of M 5!!! laughing out loud

Stringing together unrelated scans and narrating them with Wanda references just aint foolin no one but Quanchi. Great fanbase. eek! rolling on floor laughing


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Be gone my child, your acknowledgement offends me.

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As you wish kid

Just admit you were wrong and its all over.

Its quite clear for all to see.

Whilst its publication date may be a week or two after HOM 7, its reading order isnt which conclusively undermines your argument im afraid

As Claremont depicted in Uncanny and then again in New Exiles, reality fixed itself and it happened before Wanda ended it all. It happened before House of M 5!!!

Stringing together unrelated scans and narrating them with Wanda references just aint foolin no one but Quanchi. Great fanbase.

This horse dropping deserves another:

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tbh, it would seem the reading order is relatively important in this case....


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tbh, it would seem the reading order is relatively important in this case....




and where the ell of you been?! big grin

Happy New Year! lol


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Gibberish. Due to misinterpreted, and misconstrued bias outlook on the material.
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Example of self loathing through obnoxious openly mentally licking of one's own balls.
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The yawn will be sweeter soon enough friend. ")
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Prepare to read your violation.
Oh very intelligent answers.

How about you actually respond to his points. Thats how you debate.


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Oh very intelligent answers.

How about you actually respond to his points. Thats how you debate.
You giving master debating points is sickening. I can't stop cringing.


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You giving master debating points is sickening. I can't stop cringing.
Your one to talk no expression.


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Your one to talk no expression.
I am one to talk I always back up my points with logical thinking unlike yourself.


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I am one to talk I always back up my points with logical thinking unlike yourself.
Well I guess your right.

You are smart.

You can't outsmart crazy.


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Well I guess your right.

You are smart.

You can't outsmart crazy.
I'm quite intelligent so glad you agree.


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Ok let me get this straight.

I thought Wanda's spell was a worldwide one until it hit some nexus point, Excalibur's lighthouse, and that's the only reason it spread omniverse wide.

Mr Master is saying : Wanda destroyed and remade the entire OMNIVERSE using nothing but her own power?

Really?

Then that would make her more powerful than :

The LT, Protege, and Scathan, since these guys were only multiversal powers.

Pre Retcon Beyonder, since he was merely greater than our multiverse and not the entire omniverse.

TOAA since Thanos with his power only affected 616 reality and not the entire omniverse.

So Wanda is the Elaine Belloc of Marvel?


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