That never happened. It was a long and brutal fight that nearly killed Iron Man, and it was actually a low showing for Hulk and a high showing for Iron Man.
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Actual it did, the Hulk was in a heightened and enraged state (pacemaker), they had been fighting for awhile; but, it was only when Tony chanelled 'everything into one punch' to 'make it count', that he put Hulk down with 'one punch to make it count', yes in doing so he froze the armour and Scott Lang had to get him out next issue. It was the single punch that did it.
You can't say Tony one shotted Hulk when you know it was a long and brutal fight.
That's not one shotting, not in my book. Following your logic, Spider-Man oneshotted Firelord, Rhino and so on.
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Sentry was actually impressed by Extremis speed, he cheapshotted him, Tony drew blood with his punch, slowed him down a bit with his rocket boots, took all the hits with no significant damage inflicted...
If you read the last few pages Rotiart, Parmaniac, thanos-prime and I have supplied all the tech Tony needs to win this fight 10/10.
Satellite Beam- With the beam tightened crushed Hulk back into Bannerform. Also killed a SuperSkrull with the powers of all of the Illuminati.
Archille's Needle- Upon delivery purges all the Gamma from a Gamma irradiated victims body.
Forcefields + Repulsors- Tony has never had such an inexhaustible power source before. His shields contained a future Apocalypse. And his beams hurt Thor in their recent mini.
Then you have Black Hole bombs and Negative Zone Guns. Invisibility and Spider Sense. A list of gadgets that just goes on and on.
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The list of gadgets goes on and on i'll grant you and yet, Hulk is the strongest one there is.... Against characters like Namor, Hulk and Wonderman, Tony's armour never seems to hold up to the hype these days. No matter what upgrades he has.
Do you have an issue number for the Blackhole bombs and the achilles needle?
It doesn't need to he will just BFR his ass into the negative zone, there Annihilius and his A-Wave takes care of him.
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Yeah I know that's why prep vs. no prep is most of the time pointless.
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I am in your algorithm learning all your mannerisms
I'm already level with God
A million words a second and I know your imperfections, baby
I'm the only future you've got
Speak in diatonics, motivation diabolic
I'm like a religion, better locked in a box
Picture perfect image, more powerful every minute, baby
I am everything that you're not
I didn't fully make the point I wanted with this thread; but, I sort of did. Iron man used to be more powerfully intrinsically, in just his armour.... Than with his upgrades; however, in recent years prep and plot devices have made Tony more like Reed Richards or Doctor Who, he wanders off and 'creates' something. That; though, in itself is flawed; as, in things like WWH another plot device will initially negate all the prep in the World.
Comic characters are like toys. You beat em together and decide who wins. Every character gets their moment in the spotlight.
Ironman will just keep evolving until he's Superman then he'll get amnesia.
Hulks just gonna get stronger until he's a powderkeg Super Saiyan.
Thor just keeps fluctuating.
DC will have another Crisis and replace Strong characters with weaker ones.
It's good business. And I love it. Comics are the best Soap Opera a guy could ever have. Sorry for the rant.
I'm not sure about Terrax but he can now give Blastarr and Hulk a run for their money sure. It's just Tony just hasn't had much feats lately due to Invincible Ironman being a Drama. His feats in Ironman/Thor just showed him to be close to equal level. An Extremis Ironman with a near unlimited power source is capable of taking down most characters with a decent writer.
You see, I agree on much you say.. and that's why I find certain aspects of debating with a generic Iron Man or a generic Thor difficult because, as you say they fluctuate and feats are not constant not even within a writer: For instance; do you remember how Michelin kept putting Tony against magical foes right up to and including Morgana the Fey and having Tony hate magic but overcome it with Science. That lasted maybe for or five years and then got forgotten. People think Iron Man is weak against magic- from feats- he only really needs a freon tube to defeat high level mystic defences.
Iron Man has always been the most drama based soapish (after spidey) of Marvels offerings. His multitude of dalliances (Beth was my favourite), Alcoholism, Industrial Espionage, Health Problems, Ecological vs, Science issues over the years Tony has had it all in his life.
Very well put Daemon. Tony along with Strange were always my 2 favourite characters. Two characters operating on opposite spectrums. People don't like his evolution after Extremis but after his earlier exploits it was just inevitable. I do miss the problem solving fights he used to have though. Like in the 90's Hero's Return series where he used his armor in creative ways to beat his foes. Like a one-man Starship Enterprise.
These days he isn't so daring and creative I must say. He's becoming a machine.
Yeah, he is pretty much my favourite Marvel hero also Ninjak, I liked the late 70's first Justin Hammer arc best myself. I like the tech advancements a great deal. Warren Ellis is probably my favourite writer so I don't mind the tech changes. I just wish people accepted Iron Man is not my Iron Man anymore, especially in his own book.
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