Every time they got hurt by a spear or sword, those weren't normal spears and swords. They were angelic weapons. It's entirely plausible for Lucifer and Michael to tank big bangs, and still be hurt by the weapons of angels.
Regardless, Lucifer took a big bang, on panel, with no extenuating circumstances canonically given. That's really the beginning and end of the debate.
Yes, it proves he controlled the detonation which changes the feat drastically. He shaped those energies so acting like he can tank a multiversal blast he doesn't control is speculative since he's never done so. Angelic spears are also less powerful than a multiversal blast and they could still hurt him as could any of the japanese gods, etc. In combat lucy was very hurtable just very smart.
No, it's speculative to assume that an ability to shape energies post detonation has any bearing on tanking them. And the fact Michael has, in fact, hurt Lucifer with a focused beam of same energies proves Lucifer isn't naturally immune to their effect.
Since he took Michaels explosion without injury, yet was injured by angelic weapons, I disagree.
I agree Lucy isn't immune to them but when he can shape them he has direct control over them. If someone is firing them at him it hurts but if it's an explosion he controls then he controls the explosion.
He controlled the energies released and you just contradicted yourself. If michael can hurt him that means this blast would have hurt killed him as well if he didn't have control over them.
I'm glad you destroyed your own argument you saved me the trouble.
You mean besides virtually all the heroes in marvel? And all the abstracts including eternity order chaos hate etc?
When thanos fought captain America he was playing around with him....
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The answer to you question is ALL of them including the abstracts. Pre-Crisis or not the DC team would have still gotten it's ass handed to them by an IG wielding Thanos. The only reason the Marvel heroes lasted as long as they did is because he limited his use of the mind gem in an effort to impress Mistress Death. You should try reading it sometime it's great. And as far as the ass whipping he received from The One Above All there are some serious flaws with your logic. A.) that wasn't IG Thanos
B.) The One Above All is the GOD of the Marvel Universe and, according to almost every fan poll, is the MOST POWERFUL in all of comics, even higher than the Presence but just barely, so of course he was able to ***** slap him.
That is the EXACT point... first, those shouldn't hurt lucifer or micheal more than an exponentionally greater explosion than anything we've seen on panel. Second, it hasn't just been swords or weapons. Michael has hurt lucifer with a simple blast... yet those same energies from michael ONLY EXPONETIONALLY bigger didn't do a thing to him? That actually makes sense to you? Jesus :facepalm: The fact of the matter is.. that was HIS job to carry out a creation story for a being way more powerful than either of them combined. It's a CREATION STORY, and just like every other one, doesn't involve durability feats for it to happen. Both Lucifer and Michael were tools to get the job done and it was the will of the prescence. There was no tanking of anything. To say nothing of the fact that he didn't tank it.. he manipulated it... which even further proves my point
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