And most of the time, what FC did will take him down. That he has a few outliers doesn't change that, powerful hits from martial artists with enhanced stats *will* cause major damage to him.
Different continuity.
To give you an idea, in the Alpha games, Bison at his peak fought:
All 13 dolls including Cammy. Ken and Sakura at the same time until Ryu showed up after breaking mind control (possibly with Sagat on Ryu's side there too) and he decided to retreat (since he had already lost Ryu as a potential subject). Rose, who kinda-sorta 'died'. And finally Charlie, Guile and Chun-Li at the same time, with Charlie sacrificing his life to hold off Bison so the others could escape.
All in a row, on the same day, without rest in between. He's stronger in Alpha than he is during SF2 itself, but still.
Ryu is considered to have the potential to be uber tier, which is why Bison and Akuma want him, but potential in the sense of 'down the road'. Akuma wants him to unlock his dark power precisely because he feels without it, Ryu won't be able to reach his level (though in the games, this is eventually proved wrong).
In the Udon comics, it's definitely still 'potential to fight Bison and Akuma, but definitely not yet on the same level' stage. Rose lost to Bison and she's the one who flung him through an office building hard enough to collapse it.
per the udon comic, Charlie did have one of the largest area effect feats when he did his big flask kick move and cut a large section off of a cliff, though he was under the influence of the psycho power
Yes, and he can be taken down by enough of them, like Fat Cobra and other fighters in that range show. I.e. SF characters can take him down.
Not sure if you did. He commented on 'pure intent strikes in many canons'. I then mentioned that Udon continuity wasn't one of them. So yes, I was talking about Udon.
He's stronger than Ryu in both Alpha and the Udon comics.
In the games, Ryu surpasses him *eventually* (due to Ryu not being dead), but not until after SFII.
In Udon, well, he's definitely got better feats, and was able to pwn Guile and Chun-Li in a row. Ryu's good but he's not "Beat two foes of that level" good.
What makes you say that? They've got greatest destructive power than most of the Immortal Weapons, to be sure. They've got across-the-board superhuman stats, often at very high level. Superhuman toughness, strength, agility, speed...
Heck, Bison and Akuma are way stronger than Fat Cobra.
That's sorta why I'm bringing him up- you keep acting like the SF characters aren't even in IF's league, but some of them are stronger by feats than people who've beat him.
In gameplay, E. Honda is often a better character for tournaments than Bison. Doesn't mean Honda is stronger, that's just how gameplay works, it's meant to be balanced.
In the game plot, Charlie is stronger than Ryu.
Guile and Ryu are pretty close. Charlie is significantly stronger than Guile.
Ok, on the lack of good scans, I made some. Rose and Bison this time.
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Bison one-shots (the 7'7", 360 lbs) T. Hawk. For a starter. Then Rose steps in, blocks one of his shots, then:
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Because Rose is an overpowered badass.
So, Bison's out, right? Or at least stunned?
No.
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Next page, he electrocutes her, then Cammy futilely attacks and is captured (Cammy is strong enough to mutually-KO with Balrog in this continuity, btw).
That is the power of M. Bison. His every attack makes craters in the ground and hitting him into a 7-story building hard enough to collapse it barely slows him down.
That's not even his full power. Didn't he level a village?
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