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Originally posted by abhilegend
Why does it matter anyway? You said darkseid was made of glass. I accepted that and just added the bit that it was a special glass. Thor is in the discussion of this thread and him shattering celestial armor>odin, zeus, vishnu combined blast which did jackshit to the armor. Wouldn't you agree that the celestial armor turned into glass? Think about it.



I said no such thing. I said akin to glass, as in a comparison.

I'm not sure exactly which citation that you are referring to concerning the Celestial's armor being compromised, but if you're speaking of the time that Thor amplified Mjolnir with the entire planets electromagnetic field, and then hit the Celestial, there was clearly some context surrounding the attack itself. And he only managed to open a small hole in the armor. Something that I am sure that Odin could easily accomplish as well, being that the Celestial was not actively defending itself from the attack.

You're reasoning of the scene showing Superman flying through Darkseid is flawed, because Darkseid himself corroborates my understanding. If you read the scan closely, Darkseid even states that such a base attack would never stop him. Now go back to what I stated in my first post on the subject and think it over.

If what you believe or would like for everyone else to believe is that Superman was somehow more powerful than the Source entity, and an amplified Orion to have been able to easily shatter Darkseid in that form, I believe that you may need to read the arc all over.

Or Superman could shatter Darkseid all along in a weaker state, despite having had his ass handed to him several times by Darkseid, which would make this thread a wash, and he would easily be able to fly through Thanos shattering him like he did to soulfire Darkseid. Darkseid was no longer a physical being at that time, and his durability was clearly lower than his base forms durability.


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I said no such thing. I said akin to glass, as in a comparison.

I'm not sure exactly which citation that you are referring to concerning the Celestial's armor being compromised, but if you're speaking of the time that Thor amplified Mjolnir with the entire planets electromagnetic field, and then hit the Celestial, there was clearly some context surrounding the attack itself. And he only managed to open a small hole in the armor. Something that I am sure that Odin could easily accomplish as well, being that the Celestial was not actively defending itself from the attack.

You're reasoning of the scene showing Superman flying through Darkseid is flawed, because Darkseid himself corroborates my understanding. If you read the scan closely, Darkseid even states that such a base attack would never stop him. Now go back to what I stated in my first post on the subject and think it over.

If what you believe or would like for everyone else to believe is that Superman was somehow more powerful than the Source entity, and an amplified Orion to have been able to easily shatter Darkseid in that form, I believe that you may need to read the arc all over.

Or Superman could shatter Darkseid all along in a weaker state, despite having had his ass handed to him several times by Darkseid, which would make this thread a wash, and he would easily be able to fly through Thanos shattering him like he did to soulfire Darkseid. Darkseid was no longer a physical being at that time, and his durability was clearly lower than his base forms durability.

This entire debate is pointless. You can't grasp a single point or simply don't want to and I simply don't care. Superman split darkseid in half while Source/ALE got shrugged off and pwned. I never said that the attack would've stopped darkseid or superman is more powerful than Source. Does this makes Thor more powerful than Odin-destroyer?
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You can try to lowball or discredit superman's feat all you want by "Hurr Durr, Darkseid turned into glass", wouldn't make it true. You can call it PIS, but that would make a lot of herald feats PIS. Your proofless babbling that "darkseid became an energy being" wouldn't help your case either, the same energy being tanked Source/ALE's attacks without a scratch or do you think that Darkseid at lower than base durability can no sell source? Frankly you're grasping at straws trying furiously to lowball something that is painfully obvious and are on verge of trolling.


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So Superman is more powerful than Orion amped by the Source! LULZ


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Originally posted by abhilegend
This entire debate is pointless. You can't grasp a single point or simply don't want to and I simply don't care. Superman split darkseid in half while Source/ALE got shrugged off and pwned. I never said that the attack would've stopped darkseid or superman is more powerful than Source. Does this makes Thor more powerful than Odin-destroyer?
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...Celestials1.jpg

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http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e...sCelestial7.jpg

You can try to lowball or discredit superman's feat all you want by "Hurr Durr, Darkseid turned into glass", wouldn't make it true. You can call it PIS, but that would make a lot of herald feats PIS. Your proofless babbling that "darkseid became an energy being" wouldn't help your case either, the same energy being tanked Source/ALE's attacks without a scratch or do you think that Darkseid at lower than base durability can no sell source? Frankly you're grasping at straws trying furiously to lowball something that is painfully obvious and are on verge of trolling.



Now I see. You're using The Mighty Thor #300 and not the scene that I was speaking of. Again I'm trying to understand what Thor has to do with any of this. It's more likely to be a strawman, which again I'm dismissing for having nothing at all to do with the OP of this thread. In other words drop the false pretenses.

Superman shattering Darkseid was your first post, which I dealt with a couple of times already. If this was your attempt to be Superman's best punch try again.

Darkseid was not a physical being when Superman shattered him. Can you understand this? For all anyone knows Batman may have been able to shatter him, because there was no proof as to how durable he was, but what is known for fact, is that he wasn't as durable as he is at base, or in his original state. Can you understand that? To sum it up, Superman's attack was not, and should not be considered as impressive as you attempted to make people believe. Nice try though, unfortunately you can't pull the wool over everyones eyes.

Also this thing about me saying that Darkseid was glass is again you putting words down that I did not say. I said "AKIN TO GLASS", do you understand the English language? So who's the troll again? keep spinning bullshyt, and we'll see if the Mods call you on it.

If trolling means someone calling you on your lies then I am guilty, and have no problem admitting to it.

Thanos wins this BTW.


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Now I see. You're using The Mighty Thor #300 and not the scene that I was speaking of. Again I'm trying to understand what Thor has to do with any of this. It's more likely to be a strawman, which again I'm dismissing for having nothing at all to do with the OP of this thread. In other words drop the false pretenses.
So you can't understand a simple analogy?

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Superman shattering Darkseid was your first post, which I dealt with a couple of times already.
You mean your nonsensical bullshit?
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If this was your attempt to be Superman's best punch try again.
Its not a punch, its a bullrush.

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Darkseid was not a physical being when Superman shattered him. Can you understand this?
Bring a proof or shut up. I've had enough of your hypothetical bullshit.
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For all anyone knows Batman may have been able to shatter him, because there was no proof as to how durable he was, but what is known for fact, is that he wasn't as durable as he is at base, or in his original state.
Dear god, this is the most retarded thing I've ever heard. This is not a sign of durability?
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A blast that koes superman like a bug and Source/ALE claims is impossible to survive and darkseid tanks it without a scratch.
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Can you understand that? To sum it up, Superman's attack was not, and should not be considered as impressive as you attempted to make people believe. Nice try though, unfortunately you can't pull the wool over everyones eyes.
Can you read a ****ing scan? I know not to take you seriously from now on.

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Also this thing about me saying that Darkseid was glass is again you putting words down that I did not say. I said "AKIN TO GLASS", do you understand the English language? So who's the troll again? keep spinning bullshyt, and we'll see if the Mods call you on it.

If trolling means someone calling you on your lies then I am guilty, and have no problem admitting to it.

Thanos wins this BTW.
Learn to read scans and come back. Till then I have no energy or time to waste on this idioticy. He wins a beating, nothing else.


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Actuall Abhi is right. If Darkseid was akin to Glass because Superman shouldn't have been able to do what he did. Then The Celestial should also be considered Glas as Odin and more powerful beings weren't able to do what Thor did. Pick and choose, eh?


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