No, Surfer does think the way a lot of us would think in his place, it's what gives us the notions of what he could/might do.
What Surfer isn't allowed to do, is remember the stuff he does and how he does it.
For instance, he never attempts to trap mjolnir in his board, even though he has repeatedly trapped herald level characters in it.
He is basically too powerful and versatile for most writers, since he is rarely the focus of stories and mostly just a vehicle for telling tales about far distant galaxies and conflicts and such.
That and the fact that he falls to ground if you take his board out from under his feet, apparently.
I've been lamenting about that since God knows when. With all the crap he can do, at least hover, dammit, instead of tumbling like a girlieman...
...but basically, he's trapped by convention. If it's shown that he can fly w/o his board, then the board seems unnecessary, and there goes the whole surfer concept. He becomes just a shiny naked guy.
There are a few characters like this. Wonder Woman is another one. She can take hits from Superman, but still needs to block bullets with her bracelets? But watcha gonna do? That's her signature move, and it's up to comic fans to rationalize away the discrepancy (eg, Surfer can fly but doesn't to save power -- yeah, like mere flying takes so much; or: WW blocks bullets to demoralize opponents, like that's really more intimidating than just standing there and have bullets bounce off you).
Comics. Gotta love 'em.
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true, but I think there are a few instances of Surfer just floating about, iirc.
Also, just remembered yet another 'power' that he has and rarely utilises - spreading his consciousness everywhere... Like he did when he decided to live on Earth like a regular boy and wear ... dungarees.
Oh and how he just simply disintegrates people now if he gets irritated by them.
Not much really, he's always done the same shit, more or less.
Also, Thor is a warrior so he cuts loose more often or is depicted as cutting loose more readily than Surfer. Surfer's the silver shining monologue man. Jesus on an ironing board ...
Nine times out of ten, Surfer flies around and blasts people or uses the board attack. Nine times out of ten, Thor throws/swings Mjolnir and uses lightning blasts. Both of their powersets extend grossly beyond that.
The thing that annoys me is that these exotic abilities are what Surfer is all about. Exotic is what surfer does and just cuz he appears 3 times a year in the hands of writers who don't know how to portray his power, all of a sudden its "rare" for him to pull out exotic abilities?
When he does appear, he doesn't fight nearly to the degree that a lot of these arguments imply he will. Sure, he has these abilities, and sure he has used them, but I don't recall many Surfer comics or appearances he's appeared in where he starts black holing people in the brain, stranding them in the astral dimension, using Cosmic Awareness to buff allies/debuff enemies, amping to infinite strength, and all this other crap in the span of miliseconds.
And even if we do decide to give Surfer the benefit of the doubt and have him start doing stuff he doesn't do very often, it always seem to neglect what his opponents can do if they're given the same benefit of the doubt. In this case, Thor and all his random plot device Mjolnir powers nullify or counter a great deal of whatever Surfer can do.
Right. Because, goodness knows that Thor has a list as long as my Legendary Schwantz, of strange powers, attacks, defenses and other weird stuff that would put a serious "bad" on Surfer or any other character.
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Rearranging the atomic structure of the air around Thor's head into adamantium or vibranium or uru and effectively blinding and strangling him.
Then he can destroy him at his leisure.
This is an ability he has as stated on panel and in his handbook entry. Yet writers never make use of it or hardly ever.
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Quasar under Gruenwald couldn't drain the Surfer dry of Power Cosmic, htf is Thor gonna do it?
Also soul sucking won't work since we have on panel proof of Surfer resisting it and winning when Mephisto tried it. Mantis trained him in fighting off such techniques.
And last time I checked Mjlonir doens't have the ability to time travel, unless this was changed recently.
So not ONE of your examples would work vs Surfer.
Now, what would Thor do if the air around his head solidified into an indestructible (or near indestrucible) solid? He'd be phucked no?
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You're aware that Surfer isn't the only one that can transmute, right?
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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.
"Note to self: Zop, secretly thinks very highly of Quasar."
Well, out of the 2 of us, I am just going to figure you have the most experience with the "Sucking Issue", so I will surrender this to you for now. Get it? Hehe. I slyly interjected a comment into my post that alludes to the fact that you are always, well, you know... "Gobblemphllgrprll!"
Very Funny.
There, you would be blatantly wrong. He has indeed shown his ability to manipulate time.
Actually, I think there are quite a few scans of this in this forum, so I am surprised that you don't know about it.
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Actually, since he does not need air, he might just thank Surfer for giving him an indestructible helmet, no?